Seems fair, although I don't think women working in that industry like to be referred to as prostitutes. Escort, sex worker etc are ok, but not the term prostitute.

i wonder if the statue will include her 8 children each with different fathers while she shoots heroine and spreads AIDS rampantly and collects welfair checks.

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Not sure if they have welfare in Amsterdam.
Besides, the women there usually are licensed and tested for STDs on a regular basis.

[QUOTE]Prostitution
Prostitution is legal in Holland, and in Amsterdam most of it is concentrated in the Red Light District where it has enjoyed a long tradition of tolerance. Since October 2000, window prostitutes have been allowed to legally ply their trade. Today, prostitutes in the Netherlands are also taxpayers. Unfortunately, discrimination is still very much part and parcel in this trade as many prostitutes report that some banks even refuse to grant mortgages for example. However, now as a legal profession, the government ensures that all prostitutes are able to access medical care and work in better conditions by regulating and monitoring working practices and standards. Help is also at hand in the district itself thanks to the Prostitution Information Center (Enge Kerksteeg 3, www.pic-amsterdam.com). Also, contrary to popular belief, the RLD is actually the safest area in Amsterdam as clusters of policemen, and private bodyguards employed by the girls themselves are always on duty.

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http://www.amsterdam.info/red-light-district/

yeah, but they said "prostitutes around the world"

its not so classy here.....

oh! oh! don't forget the kidnapped ukranian women forced into a life as sex slaves!

[QUOTE=Lucky_13;163616]i wonder if the statue will include her 8 children each with different fathers while she shoots heroine and spreads AIDS rampantly and collects welfair checks.[/QUOTE]

That is a common misconception about women working in that industry. Sure, there is a percentage who take drugs and engage in unsafe practices, but it is not all of them. In fact, I suspect that they are in the minority.

There are many women in the sex industry who have made a career out of it. They have nothing to do with drugs and only employ safe sex practices. They offer sexual services to people who don't have a partner, or who are disabled etc. And it is a very lucrative business, too, which is the main reason they do it, of course. None of these women would be on welfare.

Here in Australia, the rules vary from state to state. In many states, brothels and private sex workers are legal, and have to be registered. In those states where it is not legalised, it seems to be tolerated as long as there is no connection with organised crime or drugs. As far as I know, though, street walkers are illegal in all states in this country.

maybe in australia. here in the US, the small percentage are the ones your talking about. the vast majority are the stung out meth addicts selling the only thing they have left to buy more meth/crack/heroine.

as a female i think it would be degrading to share your body with random men, a large percentage would be unnatractive and unappealing to you and the thought turns my stomach, sex should be about love not money
so i don't think it's right althought it's up to them, and if they have to do it to get money it's their choice but it still oesn't seem anything to be praised about.

[QUOTE=Lucky_13;163616]i wonder if the statue will include her 8 children each with different fathers while she shoots heroine and spreads AIDS rampantly and collects welfair checks.[/QUOTE]

Its not like that in Holland, they're all regulated.

[QUOTE=Lucky_13;163700]maybe in australia. here in the US, the small percentage are the ones your talking about. the vast majority are the stung out meth addicts selling the only thing they have left to buy more meth/crack/heroine.[/QUOTE]

Speaking honestly, that doesn't seem to be the case here, at least in the part of the country where I am. There are many here who actually enjoy what they do and seem to make a career out of it, believe it or not.

Of course, there are the drug addicts too, but they seem to be in the minority as far as I can tell. I have never noticed women working on the streets in the city where I live. I think the police keep a close watch on activities too.

[QUOTE=PunkChick;163789]as a female i think it would be degrading to share your body with random men, a large percentage would be unnatractive and unappealing to you and the thought turns my stomach, sex should be about love not money
so i don't think it's right althought it's up to them, and if they have to do it to get money it's their choice but it still oesn't seem anything to be praised about.[/QUOTE]

Believe it or not, the business is not always just about sex.

I've heard many stories of women who work as high-end courtesans for disabled people in search of some gentle company. It can become something quite charitable, you know.

[QUOTE=blackrosesred;169324]I've heard many stories of women who work as high-end courtesans for disabled people in search of some gentle company. It can become something quite charitable, you know.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, sucking off a spastic sounds like great fun.

If one of them has tourettes, does it count as talking dirty?

They should charge extra, if so.

[QUOTE=Ephemera;169464]If one of them has tourettes, does it count as talking dirty?
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As someone who has Tourette's, i'll have you know that coprolalia (all the stereotypical swearing) occurs in only 14% of those with Tourette's.

lmao! Brilliant.

****, piss, ****!! Potatoes!!

Disabled people have sexual and intimate needs too. Why should those basic needs be denied to them because of their disability. There are many women in the sex industry who will provide that kind of service for people in that situation.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE=cyclefreak;169520]Disabled people have sexual and intimate needs too. Why should those basic needs be denied to them because of their disability. There are many women in the sex industry who will provide that kind of service for people in that situation.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Some people will never be able to find love before they die, let alone a romantic/sexual relationship with another person because of their disability. I just read an article that talked about this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/27/nvirgin27.xml

I think this young man is very brave and realistic. It must have been very hard for him to have to come out to his parents and family about his decision.

And, I am pretty sure that the majority of prostitutes (even here in the US) do what they do because they want to. Who can judge them for what they do? I mean, I don't think I'd want to personally sleep with someone who has been with so many ppl, but that is my choice and other ppl have theirs.

It has always been amusing to me, the mentality about it here in the US. Prostitution has been around for a very VERY long time. What I find severely odd is how the men who slept with prostitutes (when they first got to this country) were also the ones who would ridicule them and degrade them for what they did. And I think that is where this double standard prejudice began. After all, what's the "moral" difference between a hundred one night stands or paying a woman to perform a sexual service?

And...that's all I've got to say about that.

[QUOTE=Lucky_13;163616]i wonder if the statue will include her 8 children each with different fathers while she shoots heroine and spreads AIDS rampantly and collects welfair checks.[/QUOTE]
I am a sex worker. I don't like the term prostitute. For your information, I am single, I don't drink, I don't take any drugs. I have a very well paid job (daytime job) for the government. I love sex and I'm getting paid for something I enjoy. I chose my 'clients' I don't sleep with just any losers.

What do you prefer to be called, if prostitute is offensive to you?

[QUOTE=Suki2007;169801]I agree. Some people will never be able to find love before they die, let alone a romantic/sexual relationship with another person because of their disability. I just read an article that talked about this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/27/nvirgin27.xml

I think this young man is very brave and realistic. It must have been very hard for him to have to come out to his parents and family about his decision.

And, I am pretty sure that the majority of prostitutes (even here in the US) do what they do because they want to. Who can judge them for what they do? I mean, I don't think I'd want to personally sleep with someone who has been with so many ppl, but that is my choice and other ppl have theirs.

It has always been amusing to me, the mentality about it here in the US. Prostitution has been around for a very VERY long time. What I find severely odd is how the men who slept with prostitutes (when they first got to this country) were also the ones who would ridicule them and degrade them for what they did. And I think that is where this double standard prejudice began. After all, what's the "moral" difference between a hundred one night stands or paying a woman to perform a sexual service?

And...that's all I've got to say about that.[/QUOTE]

I watched that on TV. It was quite funny. The guy has a muscle condition & he just keeps drooling all over the place.

He'd have to pay a hell of a lot to get a dirty hooker to do him.

[QUOTE=Suki2007;171021]What do you prefer to be called, if prostitute is offensive to you?[/QUOTE]

Hooker, skank, slut?
Take your pick. They're all the same.

[QUOTE=Anita;171012]I am a sex worker. I don't like the term prostitute. For your information, I am single, I don't drink, I don't take any drugs. I have a very well paid job (daytime job) for the government. I love sex and I'm getting paid for something I enjoy. I chose my 'clients' I don't sleep with just any losers.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, Anita. The term 'prostitute' seems to imply someone who has abandoned all their principles. Anyone who has met women who work in the sex industry will know that this is a misrepresentation.

People have a wrong conception of what they call a 'prostitute'. I am getting paid for sexual services and that is my choice. I have a very well paid day job as well, but I do that because I love sex and why would I do it for free, when I can get paid. I get to chose my 'friends'.

Intead of prostitution, I like to call it 'friends paying for sex' because after a while we establish some kind of friendly 'relationship".. For the most part, these men are married, but that's OK with me... I don't want them full time in my life. So it is all good for me.

I think what we have to consider here is that there are many, many levels. And the first one is: should the use of one's body as a job be considered bad and imoral? Let's address this first question.

Let's take the case of a woman who goes to a job interview. She's totally produced for the day. Now let's say she knows it's a guy that's going to interview her, and she takes a more provocative outfit, even showing off her (let's say existing) attributes. She does this so that she might get an edge and make the interviewer "forget" some bad points of her replies or something. Now let's assume she does well. She has used her body, although not for sex directly. However, is it that different? What matters is either you used your body or not.

Another thing to consider is the social perspective on the use of the body. We are being forced everyday, in the whole world, to present ourselves with the highest possible physical profile, so that we fit into the beautiful people category. Can we actually morally condemn those who just go a step further in this chain and use their bodies for profit?

Now into the levels in this business.

Prostitution is the legal term, and no one can get away from that. It's just not possible. There are eufemisms of course, and back here we sometimes call them Sex Professionals, Sex Worker, Sex Experts or even Sex Educators, though this last one is, of course, highly debatable. Now, the Sex Worker has many degrees, and all of you are talking of different subjects. There are many different degrees and classes of Sex Workers, namely:

1 - Escorts
2 - Street Workers
3 - Call-Girls
4 - High-Class Call-Girls
5 - Porn Stars
6 - Educational Sex Video Makers
7 - Strippers

The street workers are the junkies AIDS ridden etc. The Call-girls, namely High class ones, are generally NOT afected by these situations. Escorts might or not be, depending on the clients. Porn Stars, well, don't get me started on them and educational Sex video makers are just people not only enjoying sex (as most of these videos are made by long time couples) but getting paid for it. Voyeurism doesn't enter it, because the people involved don't have anyone present while in the act.

What I think people must do is get the street workers of the streets. Legalizing might be the way. The only problem is: there will always be women traffic, just a different one. Even because the high class call girls aroud here are east based, and normally, don't have a choice of partners, which is exactly the idea of the high class call girl: she decides if she goes with that client. What people do with their body is their business, not mine. It's only when public health is at stake that we must draw the line.

This is my first post. Hope to post more in the future :) Glad to meet all of you.

Cheers :D

Side issue: does it imply that people in Holland are relatively open in sex? It is perfectly fine (and not considered "disrespectful") to jump into bed on the first date, and continue with a sex-only relationship? I seriously want to know 'cause I've met someone like this recently. I wonder if it is an individual or cultural thing.

Most europeans are more open to sex in all senses of the word(s) :) Neerlanders are much more open yes :)

[QUOTE=Lucky_13;163616]i wonder if the statue will include her 8 children each with different fathers while she shoots heroine and spreads AIDS rampantly and collects welfair checks.[/QUOTE]

The Red Light District is carefully monitered. Its the ones outside the discrit are the dodgey ones. What a horrible thing to say!! Besides ur too stoned and out of it to have sex and do things when ur "shooting up" heroine!!

'Lady of the night' is what I have heard them be called. It doesn't sound that offensive when you say it like that.

or "Mistress of the Dark", "Keeper of the Carnal Knowledge", etc. :)

Can always be poetic about it :)

yes but it would make me smirk every time I thought about it..lmao
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[QUOTE=alban lusitanae;182545]or "Mistress of the Dark", "Keeper of the Carnal Knowledge", etc. :)

Can always be poetic about it :)[/QUOTE]

i think i like "keep of the carnal knowledge" the best lol

...i think that should be a new screen name for someone lol <3

bit on the vain side for a screen name don't you think? :)

I'll just say that as a fairly religious person, I don't have a very nice view of prostitutes. I personally find the "profession" of prostitution to be disgusting. For one thing, many times these prostitutes are involved in adultery which I think that most people probably consider to be immoral and for another thing, sex should be about love, not money.