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Originally Posted by EvilEvilKitten

No, virgins aren't "useless" - it is just that being one has no real value.

OK, that is a fair position to hold.

In fact, nature itself is against the idea

Well, purely biologically-speaking, our only purpose of existence is to reproduce, so in that sense nature is definitely against the idea of virginity, but under such reasoning, nature is also against the idea of condoms and other forms of contraception.

please look up the facts on Hostile Mucus. Icky as that sounds. The AMA has the best info. Basicly, if she hasn't been exposed to sperm before a certain age, the muscus guarding her cervix will become spermicidal and thus will actively kill sperm making it impossible for her to have children. The age at which this occurs will vary from woman to woman but generally speaking this occurs somewhere in her 30's.

I had not heard of Hostile Mucus prior to your mentioning it in this thread. I googled a few articles on it and from the few articles I skimmed or read it sounds like the mucus becomes too viscuous for sperm to pass, but not actually spermicidal, though the effect is the same - infertility. The causes of the condition were generally stated to be medical, such as taking of some types of drugs, including some that help induce ovulation. There was no mention that exposure to sperm earlier in life can help mitigate the effect. Than again, I didn't find anything about it on the AMA website, so maybe the articles were simply incomplete.

Anyway, coitus when wearing condoms does not (or at least should not!) expose the women to sperm, so even if what you say is true, presumably women who have practiced 'safe sex' have the same risk of developing hostile mucus as virgins. It is unfortunate that women have to suffer this, but luckily the condition appears to be treatable at least to some extent. The articles indicated that the mucus can be thinned and thus be made less hostile.

Men don't get off lightly either. After 40, men experience their own issues such as decreased sperm mobility and decreased sperm quality which decreases a man's effectiveness as a sire. Yes, he can get her pregnant but the chances of this happening are less than they would have been at age 25.

Yes, the part about male deterioration of sperm quality I have heard before - it is indeed unfortunate, but earlier (say prior to 25) sexual exposure will not help avoid that - only earlier conception will. It has even been popularly dubbed the 'male menopause', though the term doesn't seem to fit, as I would guess sperm quality decreases gradually over time, rather than being consistently high and then dropping off suddenly at a certain age/moment, whereas women stop menstruating more abruptly (though I suppose there is a build up to that too, with decreasing fertility long before that time, so maybe the analogy is not as bad as I made it out to be).