I am a 21 year old female virgin.  No one except my best friend and my sister and brother know this.  I don't mind fooling around with guys at all but I absolutely do not believe in sex with someone I don't love.

I've had one serious relationship, but he was also a virgin and waiting until he got married.

I've basically done everything except sex and receiving oral sex.

Sometimes I feel so stupid because when the guys at work or my friends start talking sex talk I don't know what to say.  So usually I stay quiet.

There is no way I'd ever admit to any of my friends that I was a virgin.  There is one girl here thats a virgin and everyone thinks she is a freak!  

Now, I know that sounds bad but I have my reasons.

Anyway, I feel inadequate and am starting to just think about throwing myself at the next hot guy that hits on me just to "Get it over with."  I'm tired of being a virgin, and every year like someone else said I think to myself "this is going to be the year I lose my virginity."

Hasn't happend!

Like other people thats posted on here, I am an introvert, and I cannot stand clubs.  Although bars I don't mind.  Except guys at bars are usually jock/jug heads that only think about sex or sports.. So blah.  

I mainly am tired of being single and sexless. haha

Oh I flirt with women all the time. I agree it's fun, it's just hard to find a woman that you'll be happy with.

Personally, I think the reason people who are virgins at late ages go to strip clubs and bang prostitutes is that they are in a hurry for sexual experience.

hm, I say just try and get out into the dating world, or make good friends with a guy who has a girlfriend, then you could go on double dates with them and one of her friends.

Good post, eDJ. Some of the best advice I ever got was in an autobiography of- all people- Ed McMahon.... you know, "The Tonight Show"/"Star Search"... anyway, he said,

"Go into anything and act like you belong and people will treat you as if you do."

It works.

For the guys posting above I'd mention some things for them in their support.  I somehow think that there is a percentage of the male population which will for whatever reason wind up
being virgins to a later age than most of their peers.  I was.

There are many reasons it happens but for what ever they are
it's interesting to take a look at what is happening for the guys and girls from around 9 years of age or about grade 4 in school when kids begin to break out of being little kids and realize that that there other kids and begin to prepare to socialize with them and build their social skills.(which will set to tone for their lifetimes)

With the girls you have to remember a factor referred to as the  "biological time clock" which has some thinking she will need to be married and having the children that will comprise
her family before she's 25 or so, such that her kids are mature adults before she enters menopause.(around 46+)  What mom wants crazy teens when she's going thru menopause?  So, the girls will be socialized earlier than the guys. Girls will be taught about being grown-ups earlier as their menstral cycle will start for them to mark the beginning of their fertility...thus another reason early knowledge of social skills is important. Guys notice this and don't understand it sometimes...especially guys who are only kids or from families of all boys.  Often they don't understand how the girls their age get off dating guys  who are several years older...and experience feelings of being cheated, inferiority, jealousy, and at least confusion.

Girls will be taught social skills, learn to dance, dress as women, attend womens functions when boys are still playing
and being given what they will recieve in terms of male skills
which they will use for the rest of their lives.  Helping change oil in the car, rotate tires, change sparkplugs, paint on the house, do some roofing, electrical work, electronic work, computer repair and maintenance, and a buch of other things which kinda keep them away from the girls so they don't get one in trouble.

This all works well for the parents in a perfect world, but still some teens discover sex from older kids and try it.  Casualties ensue early on with single moms and families which move to other states taking their boys with them.  Some moms are
by their boys like prison guards and all but brain wash them about girls to the extent that they sort of become institutionalized like lifers in prison and just hide themselves away from everything to please mom and dad.  Many learn to build cars, computers, boats, or get into sports and hang out with their buddies far too long.  Most of these guys will have stories about some girls who acted interested in them for awhile but drifted off.

Unfortunately these guys sort of spoil their mom's and dads who would enjoy this trend realizing life will be a snap for them
with no problems out of JR.  Many of these same moms will act like no girl is good enough for her little boy.  It is said that
if there is marital trouble between a man and his wife with a mother'n'law...9 times out of 10 it will be from the guys mom.

So then,  what's a guy to do?  Call himself lazy, not handsome, a committed bachelor?  What if he feels lonely and
deep inside isn't happy with where he has drifted in life's flow.
He realizes mom is so happy he is single but he isn't?  When he brings a girlfriend around mom acts pleased but as soon as she is gone mom strats picking her to pieces?  Mom may like the idea of you being seen with girls...but then quickly reels you in by her leash around your neck before you can hook up and have a girl friend.  Well, heads up JR.  Here's what I'll say to you.

You don't have to go to bars to find women or endure smoke filled rooms in public houses and dance halls.  Learning how to
let girls know you like what you see when you look their way, or when a girl walks up and smiles to say "HI" you know how to recognize what is happening and deal with it.  It's called
FLIRTING.  It is easy to learn how to do as most of it is body language and knowing how to get over your fears and just smile and act nice to someone.  How to pay a complement sincerely.  How to invite someone to a more comofortable place in a busy room to chat a bit and get to know each other a little better to see if you have anything in common on the very most basic of terms.  This is where a second meeting....like for coffee...will be established.  It comes in small increments and ultimately builds a friendship.

If you would like to learn more about flirting, you public library probably has some books on the subject.  It is fun, easy, and you'll wonder why you didn't learn more about it earlier.  Sure you have heard the word "Flirting", but do you know that much about it?  An author named Susan Rabin has several books available for real life flirting or even chatrooms where you can practice and learn to charm girls and not speak in
anti social language which rubs people the wrong way all to often.  Learn not to be rejective first and regret it later.  Girls who do this too much often hear themselves called a "PRINCESS" when she's a teen, and in her twenties a "SPINSTER". Guys often hear people referr to them as Mr. Pittiful or Old Bachelor.

This is just about being charming enough to be approachable or to approach someone else and see if you can be friends to start with, then build from there.  Sure you will get rejected some...but it's a numbers game....soon or or later your number is going to hit....and that's all it takes.  Don't let getting rejected hurt your feelings or ruin your life...just think....NEXT! and move on to another girl you find interesting.
(and not just for her physical features)

Guys who are truly uncomfortable with their plight will be the ones to change their ways first. Other guys may tire of dating their hand, or visiting hookers who only want their money and secretly think they are loosers.(many hookers are either druggies or lesbians who resort to it for quick money to pay rent etc, or buy drinks for the girls at the bars they are interested in). Anytime is a good time to climb out of the rut and better than never.

I'll mention these books which may be in your public library:

How to attract anyone anytime anyplace; the smart guide to flirting by Susan Rabin.

Susan Rabin/Amazon.com

Dale Carnagie's all time best seller    How to win friends and influance people

Dale Carnagie/Amazon.com

I'll mention Dr Herb Goldberg for the guys and women who love them:  Hazards of being male...surviving the myth of
masculine privilege(click the customer reviews link to the right
on the page the link below takes you to...you gotta read the reviews of this book)

Dr Herb Goldberg/Amazon.com

If you visit the links you can click on the book link and read samples from the books or read reviews by people who have read the books so you will have a better idea what it is about.
Most guys would do well to have these books hid with their porn collection and "READ" the damn things.  Learn some stuff so you won't still be wanking off every time when you're 30.  It isn't about what you look like when you're a guy....so much as it is for girls.  For guys it is more about how attractive girls find you for what's inside, and these two books will help with that more than you know. Have you seen the movie Shrek?  This is just a start, but every thing begins with a start...even loosing ones virginity.  And nobody plans to fail at that....they just fail to plan for it !

Ps....and learn to stand up straight, smile, and act like the lights are on and someone is at home.(ask yourself, that in your present condition....if you were a girl would you flirt with the guy YOU are in your present condition? Or even jump in the sack with you?  Now, what would it take for you to change that? Check the library for copies of those books and you have a good start)

eDJ

I'm 29, not truly a virgin (not proud of it but I tried prostitutes for a little while). I've never had sex with someone I really wanted to or who wanted me for anything but $$.
I've never had a girlfriend. I had some female friends that I felt were like a girlfriend but were really more like sisters except for the fact I also wanted to have sex with them.
I, too, am successful for my age, but not overly so. I own a home, nice vehicle, and people think highly of me. Still, I find I am insecure to the point of not being able to even fathom asking out women I find attractive. I cannot understand what they would ever see in me.
I'm short, heavyset (5'3" and 180lbs) but people at work say I don't look "fat" or "chubby." Women I like are generally younger, 18-26, thin, and bubbly.
I absolutely hate bars & clubs. I feel so out-of-place that all I do is stand near the wall and watch. People (including here) recommend trying social groups... Guess what? If I liked the idea of the group I would already be in it.... When I try those (singles groups, church groups, etc) I am as out of place as at bars.
So... you are not alone. The right person who can take you and me out of our social shell will come along sometime. Until then, masturbation provides a safe relief from the urges. Just push your own envelope a little bit once in a while.

I have a lunch date with an older woman (35) next week. She's short, not thin, but not fat. Not gorgeous, but certainly not ugly. A few years ago I would not have given her a second look, but I now know her a little bit and she has a great personality and we make each other laugh at work. I was recently set up on a date with a Thai girl. She was pretty, tall, thin, and friendly, however we just didn't click... no joking around, nothing in common.

While not the "trophy girlfriend" we're trained to chase by TV and magazines, this woman from work makes me feel good about myself when we're together. Hopefully I will have the guts to ask her to dinner/movie/hike/ whatever, if this lunch date works out.

Good luck, from another sexually frustrated guy... Who wishes he was still an unwilling virgin instead of regretting paying for it just to get the short rush.

^^^^wow, I'm in the same boat as that guy above.

I've heard from many women that I'm good looking and attractive, I too am not shy at all around women. It's just that I'm being very careful of who I'm being with. All the girls who I've been with in the past, all came to me. But none of the girls I've went out with in the past, none of them had sexual intercourse with me.

My only thing, if these girls want to show me that I am a human being and respect me like a human being, then I'll accept sex with her. If she shows that she truly loves me as a human being, then I'll go for it.

If I date a girl who's going to use me for money or she's dating me just to "test" me, she's out the door.

I just want true love and respect from a girl. And I will one day find that perfect somebody that I'll be with the rest of my life.

I'm 26 and still a virgin. Thankfully, I don't think i'll be one for very much longer... I know how it feels to go yet another year without losing it. Amazingly enough, most girls actually think i'm good looking, I dress really well, and i'm doing very well for myself in terms of career, etc. Believe it or not, this can actually be a problem for a guy. I'm too serious for my own good and my interests are not typical of people my age. I'm often told im' an emotionless SOB, in jest of course, but there's an element of truth to it. Put this all together and i'm unapprochable to a lot of women; not because i'm unattractive in any way, but because there's an invisible barrier around me.

However, #1 problem has been that i'm a lazy mfer and an introvert. There's nothing wrong with being introverted, but it means i don't enjoy the typical places people our age go to meet girls. I hate clubs. I'd rather stay home cause i feel so out of place at them. Whenever i've gone to them, i feel like i have to go through the motions of pretending to enjoy myself when i'm really not. I did this in my first couple years of university, but then said "f*** it" after a while and I went back to playing computer games in my free-time cause i didn't feel like wasting anymore money at venues I disliked.

I've never had a real girlfriend, although there have been girls i've messed around with to varying degrees since the age of 17.. The one thing they all had in common was that they all came to me, I didn't really have to do anything to get them. Unfortunately, they were never around long enough for us to get to sex (they were usually on vacation when I met them), or maybe i just didn't push for it enough.. who knows.. The point is, I only had myself to blame.

Not too long ago, a girl came along that changed things for me. Because of certain situations that I won't elaborate on, I had to devote considerable energy into the courting phase. Just getting her to come out on a date with me was tough at first (it had nothing to do with her desire to do so). Things are rolling pretty smoothly now, and i know it's gonna happen sooner rather than later. I think that for me, the right girl had to come along. There were others before her, but i've fallen for this one pretty hard, and the others were usually leaving soon after we hit it off.

I think that for me anyway, a lot of the problems were ones i could have done something about had i been more pro-active about it. However I just filled my time with work and stuff isntead. If you want to accelerate the process, you're gonna have to find a way to meet new people. I'd concentrate on doing that before worryign about sex. If you're at all like me and don't wanna leave everything to chance you're gonna have to learn to make yourself more approchable.

anyway, get out there and gl.

Ps. if the post is rambling and/or incoherent and/or slightly off-topic, you'll have to excuse me cause i only got 5 hrs of sleep yesterday and it's now 2:30am, which is my cue to hit the sack.

I'm 27 and still a virgin.

I'm very careful of the women who I date. I don't want to have sex with someone that I barely know well yet or you'll feel guilty the rest of your life. I can get laid any time but in my choosing, I choose to lose my virginity to a female who I truly love. I'm just waiting for that special someone.

It's not a crime to not have sex. Have sex whenever you want to and enjoy life. There are more important things in life than just sex. Don't listen to people who make fun of your virginity. There is no rush for sex. People who lose their virginity at their teens are just stupid kids rushing to get laid. Just wait until you think it's right. Just enjoy life and do whatever makes you happy. That's what I'm doing.

LOL, I was a late bloomer too Norinco. As you can see there are several here who were. It sounds like you have the right attitude about everything though. As a guy.....loosing your virginity isn't that world shaking of an event. I mean you may
think, "is that all there is"...as I did. It may be different getting ones hyman ruptured and being penetrated in a tight
dry sensitive place and being wrought with anxiety about it all.

A guy is hard as steel when it happens and not likely to bleed from it or feel pain so much.

The advantage to the guys who wait....they have had longer to masturbate.(everyone does...and says they don't) Thus you have more understanding of your bodily signals and what it feels like just before you cum. In short....you've trained longer. You will have a little more confidence with what you bring to the bed. It does make a difference. What you will learn with experience with her is how not to slip out all the time, how to put it where it goes corectly, how to make it right for both of you when doing it and that kind of stuff.

I felt more like I had lost my virginity when she stood outside the pharmacy and made me go buy rubbers, or with the first blow job she gave me than penetrating her. Although it was a beautiful experience(she didn't wish for me to wear protection the first time as she wanted it totally natural) she was concerned that I let her know if I was going to cum. She was charmed that I had the control I had and could go like I did without a premature ejaculation. It ment a lot to her that I could pull out before cumming and had the self control to make it last for her pleasure.

....And lastly, Wensday night is a great time to go out and meet girls. It is mid week and most are hunting for Mr FridayNight and SaturdayNight. The big date nights. Still there
are lots of girls who work all kind of shifts and days too just like you. Mid week days can be nice times too if you make it that way. Many people like the see and be seen of downtown
Saturday Night but I never felt it to be that big an issue. There are girls who work night jobs too and afternoon jobs and you could find some time together any day of the week if you decided to. I used to date a phone opperator who worked crazy hours and talk about an unspoiled girl who was glad to get together anytime we could......

I've worked straight days with weekends off, but my all time favorite was an afternoon shift with friday and saturday off.
I didn't have to be back to work till Sunday at 3pm and got off at 11pm Thursday. I could go out and hook up after 11pm
every night if I wanted to and have one week day off to get to businesses that were closed on weekends. The weekend is about over by Sunday 3pm anyhow.

eDJ

ok just wanted to add my 2 cents to this....

I was a virgin til i was 25...yes 25, and that was only three months ago that it happened. I wasn't particularly proud of that fact, in fact many of my friends thought I wasn't. I talked the talk but never walked the walk. Like you I wasn't all that good at dating...half the guys who asked me out were creeps and I could never get the nerve to ask a guy out. Oh by the way I also work the graveyard shift, and incidently that 's how I met Brandon...my friend with benefits He works graveyard also at another hotel where he does security. Maybe you should try meeting other people who work the same shift as you do. Its not that hard, I'm sure they are just as bored as I was...not much happens in the wee hours of the morning. I talk with half the night shift in my area while at work and later on we hang out...after sleeping in of course

Well, are you against trying a dating website? That may be the best thing for you, at this point. I know people usually have big problems about these, but there are a few reasons why this is a good deal for you.

You get to see a bunch of different girls. You can talk to them via e-mail. So you can plan what you will say. You can read their e-mails anytime you want. So getting home late/early will not affect that. You can let them know about your strange hours and your wednesday date night. You can slowly graduate to talking on the phone, then eventually meeting in person in a public place.

Just thought it may help. I've met people off of those sites before. I obviously won't recommend any since I don't want to seem like an advertiser, but we've all seen a zillion of them. I could recommend some that I think are pretty legit, if you like. Trust me, they are not so bad. I've made a lot of friends off of them, actually, even though things didn't work out with any of them and ended up meeting a guy at work.

Hmm where do you live? I live in Baton Rouge and it doesnt matter what day it is (not including sunday) people go to bars. But if you are still having trouble why not try learning guitar? It may seem shallow but i hear some girls will have sex with you just cause you play guitar. Idk for sure though. I just had it for the first time with my gf. I am 19 and she could careless if I play guitar, which I do. \m/

*oberon's still chuckling over the irony of cheating on an ethics exam...*

Okay, my advice is you need to be more pro-active.  You work crummy hours... so, find something to do on the hours you have off.  You don't have to go to a bar.  Try some sort of social group.  Join some charity organization (at least if this one doesn't work, you'll have helped people...lol).  Take a class (cooking, art, literature, etc.).  Anything where you'll meet people.  

If you do meet someone you like, do something about it.  Ask her to dinner.  To a movie.  If she says no, move on to the next one.  If you want to date (and eventually have sex) you have to try.  No one likes rejection, but it's a part of life.  Don't let it get to you... just keep trying.  

You sound like a good guy and I'm sure someone will see that.  You just have to put yourself out there and let them.

Oh, and I like "Dharma and Greg", too.

One last thing, next date... LEAVE THE COMBAT KNIFE AT HOME... it's not really a dating accessory.

Good luck and have fun.

You are not weird. You are a human being, just like all of us, and fears and preassumptions get in the way of logical decisions.

Do not try to conform to society's crazy ways. Be yourself. If you want a woman, go after her! Make your feelings known. Do not hide under a rock and wait to be found. I am much younger than you are (16), but up till the beginning of this year, I was the shyest kid around. I personally found it painful that I did not have a girlfriend, and my situation was similar to yours in many ways. The only difference is that I did not have a problem with guys my age (and the sex thing, which I still don't care about, that will come in the future when the time is right).

I was lucky, because that all changed when I met the coolest girl around, and I made it my mission to change my ways. I forced myself to lose my fear of socializing. I forced myself to speak up when I could not even think of the words. I forced myself to be a more outgoing person, a more friendly person. In the end, I was triumphant. I changed for the better, but only because I chose to do so. THere were many times when I fell face down, many embarising situations, but its from these mistakes that we all learn and gain experience. I survived the journey and I am now a different person, and I enjoyed it every step of the way. It took many months, but I changed. I also got the girl and am still with her!

You can learn so much by watching people around you. You should try that.

Trust me, everything happens for a reason. Things always work out the way they are supposed to, and you will have your day of triumph.

Also, can't you consider another job? One that does not require you to work during "single hours"?

Take care, and best of luck to you!

well, i'm not sure what you're asking help for...but you're not weird by my terms.

i'm 23...female for that matter.
i lost my virginity at 22...a month shy of being 23 (turned 23 in january).
to this day (including my current relationship) i have still never had a boyfriend.  i do not consider who i'm with now to be my boyfriend.  if i have to classify him as anything (which I hate to do) he is a friend with benefits.
i have never been on a date (unless you include the "date" with psycho boy, but lets not go there).
i did not get a real kiss until feb of this year (yes, i did everything backwards).  i refuse to count a forced kiss a couple years ago as my first kiss and i do not count the random pecks i gave my guy last year as a real kiss.

was i a proud 22 year old virgin?  you bet.  i was a rare breed.
was i really that by choice?  not so much.  every year since i was like 19 or 20 i made this little thing where i said i was gonna lose my virginity before i turned the next age.  that obviously didn't happen.

i'm a nice girl.  lots of people consider me "cute".  i like to make people laugh, that's usually how i attract people.  i'm nobody but myself and people also find that attractive.  so really, all in all, i don't have much of a problem attracting people.  the problem however is that the people i attract are pretty much psychotic stalkery weirdos.

so, you tell me what my problem is with guys, and you'll answer your question as to why you can't really attract girls.

however, i don't think you should just go out and lose it for the hell of it.  i don't think you should wait for the "right girl" so to speak,  i think you should wait for someone you trust.  is my guy the "right guy"?  hell no...but he is someone i trust very dearly.  i trusted him back then and i trust him even more now.

part of my problem was i was looking for it all.  i was looking for someone constantly.  when i stopped looking, someone found me.  i at first took it all as joke.  we were both sitting there and i was just babbling about..something..possibly how i've never had a boyfriend.  i'm not really sure.  and he mentioned that he found me attractive.  i laughed it off and said whatever and he said he was serious, he found me very attractive.  that was a year ago yesterday..the 26th.

i, like you, was very shy around guys....and anytime they would compliment me, i did exactly what i did to him..shrug it off and laugh it off.  i was not used to the treatment. people, including my family, was never much of a "big supporter" of mine and compliments and support were not something that ever really came my way. he was the only one to pursue it and that's what changed it all for me.

so, i guess my advice to you, stop looking for it.
the more you look for it, the more you over analyze people (not that the people who liked me weren't psychotic stalkery weirdos but that's not the point) and the more you turn people away.
take a deep breath and step back for a while.  you never know what's gonna happen.

and thank you for reading my long novel.  lol.

SEX IS OVERATED!!!!! be a virgin and stop worrying about it itll happen at the right time what you have to remember here is that it wont be earth shattering or life changing. the thing that can make it special is who you loose it to. and dont be shy adout it some women....the ones who arent sluts. will apreciate it. now what is appealing to women. ive never had a problem myself but i have a few qualities/things they seem to like, be nice, be confident, be comfortable. learn to play bass ...five string is best, and drive a cool car...i drive a 64 dodge bart matte black chicks dig it and it was even cheap.

hahahahahaaha

If there's one thign I'm sick of, it's people in their 20's being made to feel ashamed of being a virgin! It's people who throw it away at 14 / 15 / 16 who should be ashamed.
Maybe you should look for a new job, one that will allow you to have Friday / Saturday nights off. Even if your working in a fast food place, a lot of your co-workers will be young, you'll make friends and be able to go out.
But come on, you can't sleep with any girl that "acknowledges your existence" If you do that then your wait will have been for nothing. You have to sleep with a girl that genuinely likes you.
Anyway, that's my advice, hope you find the right girl.

[QUOTE=Rich In Flavour;248893]If there's one thign I'm sick of, it's people in their 20's being made to feel ashamed of being a virgin! [/QUOTE]

Erm, two points:

1) You need to check the date on the first post of the thread, as well as the last before yours... 2004 here we come...

2) I don't think many people are trying to make others feel ashamed of being virgins in their 20's. I just don't see it happening.

Oh yes, wait and wait and wait for the girl/boy of your dreams until you are old and gray and set in your ways. Yep, just what every dreamgirl/boy wants - that dried up old man/woman sitting at the bar, wandering about the grocery store, hanging aound work/school colleagues, feeling sorry for himself/herself.

Pfft!

Sex is NOT overrated. Everyone who is not a virgin would much rather be enjoying sex than doing anything else, especially if they have some skill at it.

You cling to this notion that out there is a dreamgirl/boy just waiting for you and if it was meant to be it will be; by some miracle you two will find each other and everything will go so well; you'll marry and you'll live happily ever after.

But your sweet sappy ego-boosting fantasy is nothing more than a convenient cover-up to hide your fear. Just having this fantasy itself marks you as an "unsuccessful male/female". And it really is a fantasy - real life doesn't work like that. Dating is just like learning to ride - you fall off every now and again until you get some skill.

All because you will not get out there and take your chances.
We have heard all of the reasons and all of the excuses.

"I don't like the clubs/bars/whatever"
"I'm ugly/fat/too short/too tall/whatever."
"I'm saving myself for marriage."

and they all are rotten excuses because they do not address the central issue: - low self-esteem from which we get fatalism, cowardice, timidity and the "prince/princess syndrome".

You are the only You that has ever existed and will ever exist on this planet. You are entirely unique and are therefore special. So give over being afraid and show yourself off to the world at large and go forth smiling ready to say YES.

Because it is a whole lot better and more fun than saying NO.

To have sex yet or not to have sex yet?

In the end the answer to that question is a very personal choice, for very personal reasons, and no one should be criticized or scrutinized for which one they make.

Once I found T, I can't tell you how I wished he'd been my first. And if I'd waited just 6 months, he would have been. Not that I regret changing my mind about waiting until marriage, I just wish the guy had been T instead of the guy it was, because the guy it was, I realized only later was an incredible ass in several different ways. My first time with T, we were 27 and 28. And I was his first.

The married men I have met who did marry virgins, 20 years to 30 years later wish they had married sluts instead. Virgins are just too good at saying no.

If she's saying no that often, he hasn't worked hard enough to find her sure-fire, works every time, guaranteed 'button'.

Do not always blame him - women have their own responsibilities when it comes to sex. If she isn't willing to orgasm then she won't no matter what he does!

[QUOTE=Humble;248922]Erm, two points:

1) You need to check the date on the first post of the thread, as well as the last before yours... 2004 here we come...

2) I don't think many people are trying to make others feel ashamed of being virgins in their 20's. I just don't see it happening.[/QUOTE]

1) The date is irrelevent.

2) I was referring to society in general, not the people on this thread. And yes, it does happen. Why else did the creator of this group anmit that he wouldn't admit being a virgin to anyone.............

3) Similar to a virgin, I am new to sex (Sexinfo101) and am still finding my way around this site. So I beg you not to patronise me.

I understand the pain, I was a virgin until 23, which means I lost it in April of this year. I am now single, but the woman I was with actulally asked me out first, cause I am very shy to this very day.

There is this girl I really like now, but frankly I don't know hwow to approch her or anything. the most I did was friend her on facebook, which she accepted. So beleive me when I say I understand the pain of not being able to approch women, of not knowing what to say, and of being rejected, cause I have been rejected by women, a lot, in my lifetime.

I'll give you a hint ok two hints:

1. read the works of Georgette Heyer - yes, I mean it - because they SHOW you how a fully grown adult male SHOULD talk, behave, etc to 'get the girl' and some things never change.

2. learn to dance - builds confidence and gives you something to say and do with that girl you'd like to get to know. "Would you like to dance?" BTW it doesn't matter if you're good or bad at it - just having the courage to do it is enough for most girls because we're not all that good at it either.

[QUOTE=Rich In Flavour;249181]1) The date is irrelevent.[/quote]

Well, you were responding to people who posted 5 years ago. Chances are that they are not here anymore or even if they are their issues might well have been resolved or have mutated into completely different forms.

[quote] 2) I was referring to society in general, not the people on this thread. And yes, it does happen. Why else did the creator of this group anmit that he wouldn't admit being a virgin to anyone............. [/quote]

That's what I was referring to as well - the society in general. I have never seen anybody make fun of anybody else for being an virgin in his or her 20s in real life. Whereas it might happen in isolated insances, I think it is a myth that this happens on a regular basis.

[quote] 3) Similar to a virgin, I am new to sex (Sexinfo101) and am still finding my way around this site. So I beg you not to patronise me.[/QUOTE]

I did not mean to patronize you - I too am a virgin in late 20s. It's just that I don't see anybody making fun of that or treating me differently because of it. I suppose it is true that most people don't know, but that is not because I hide it somehow - it is just a topic that doesn't even come up and I don't exactly wear a "virgin sign" on my forehead. Why would it even come up? I really doubt, however, that if the topic came up, they would make fun of me - from my experience with those people who do know, at most there would be a few in-jest comments that we would laugh at together (if that).

Virginity is something so precious.Why lose it so easily?Like a lot of people I lost my virginity young and since then have slept with some people that mean absolutely nothing to me.With my current bf we waited(not long) but it ensured he had genuine feelings.It was worth it.I think a lot of us would change the past and lose our virginity to someone we love rather to some shmow who just wants to get his cock wet!

Virginity is NOT precious. I threw mine away young, had 10 lovers before being married and have never regretted any of it.

Your worth is in your head not in your vagina.

i'm 22 years and still a virgin but i think i need to b fucked.... serious because i could jus feel sometimes i'm wet seriously wet and don't know why!!

[QUOTE=Flirt;251221]i'm 22 years and still a virgin but i think i need to b fucked.... serious because i could jus feel sometimes i'm wet seriously wet and don't know why!![/QUOTE]

Are you serious? You don't know why? :confused: