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Originally Posted by sera300
Let me be the first to congratulate you and your g/f on your upcoming pregnancy is you decide to use withdrawal alone!!!! Apparently YOU have not read the studies NOR done the empirical research on sperm presence. Take a microscope and look in your urine post ejaculation about 4 hours later--post void. Have you ever thought either you or your g/f are infertile? Or just damned lucky? Go tell Brandye, she is full of **** with what she is saying; seen with her own eyes, as well as the same for me with what I see. Both in patients and medical research. Don't interpret research you are not familiar with, you are doing yourselves a great disservice.
Source: Zuckerman Z, Weiss DB, Orvieto R, Does preejaculatory penile secretion originating from Cowper's gland contain sperm? Journal of Assisted Reproduction & Genetics 2003; 20 (40): 157-159.
The conclusion was YES in fact preejaculatory fluid contains spermazoa and advocates against the use coitus interruptius as a method of birth control.
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Please read my post in it's entirety before you decide to obnoxiously criticize me. I state in my post that we are using both birth control and withdrawal. All that I was saying is that the 40% pregnancy rate for those who use withdrawal alone almost certainly factors in those who do not pull out in time. Obviously, this is not "correct/perfect use." No I have not done the empirical research as I'm 17. I apologize. However , I did not "interpret" any studies or research but simply restated their findings. Forgive me for not posting all of my sources - at one point, I looked into the issue rather extensively, read a number of studies, and concluded that at the very least there is very little consensus within the medical community on the presence of sperm in "pre cum." Perhaps I am wrong. I am not saying that anyone is full of anything and it would be irresponsible to rely on any findings but those that claim the greatest risk for using withdrawal alone.
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Mr Hide,
Sperm is always present in the male genito-urinary tract. Whether it is generated with the "pre-cum" or is just lingering is immaterial. Most urine samples of men show the presence of sperm. During sexual arousal, the number of sperm present increases dramatically. They aare even swimming out on their own not awaiting the big event.
Sperm is generated in the testes and supplied to the prostate on demand - or when storage space is used up - where it mixes with the semen awaiting ejaculation. When you wait too long, it simply discharges itself as in nocturnal emission.
You are correct that the male often does not withdraw in time. That is reality. You also point out that you and your g/f use of contraceptives. Nothing wrong with that but advocating withdrawal as a sole means of contraception is doing a disservice to all those young men who are too anxious to get in there bare.
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I thought that the acidic qualities of urine kill sperm and one of the uses of "pre cum" is to neutralize that acid in the urethra (sorry, I don't know if thats the correct body part). If so, how can sperm be found in urine? Are they dead? In any case, I don't believe I ever advocated the use of withdrawal alone - I only mentioned that the 40% failure rate for the use of withdrawal seemed quite low if it was "used correctly." Thanks for the replies.