Jaybee370, don't feel inferior.it is what it is!I as a male am about 5.5 incheches erect and ya know what it doesn't bother me 1bit. don't let it bother you
DaMnke3 I really love that quote. And andyaz your quote is great. If any guy is ever all sad and shit about his dick size just say that and then wink at him. (To the ladies or the gays) (Guys)
you dont say what size you are affraid? i am just 4" on a good day i know that is way below average as all i have read quotes 6"to7" the eastern male is smaller at 5"to6" and dont belive what you may have been told size dos matter when it is just 4"
I seriously think that it doesn't matter. I think its a big myth that it matters a whole lot in making a woman climax. I think its just a head game (pardon the pun) women play. I fall on the larger end of the average but I don't boast about it. It takes more than size to send a woman over the edge. Bottom line...I think everyone has their preference.
Besides...we play the same game with women in their breast sizes. I just prefer that they have two great, round, non saggy breasts. I prefer a natural breast over implants too. Okay I got side tracked!
They always say the same thing every where. Average = btw 5 to 7 inches.
I'm Mr. Avarage then. PEnis sizes are similar to boob sizes i guess. There's a huge range and it really depends on shape as well as size.
In my experience, a long and straight penis can feel great but can also cause a lady to go "ouch, my uterus!" And if a guy is 8 inches or more then he can forget anything anal. My personal preference is for something in the 5-7 inches range, with a good girth (which for me is around 4 inches). For me, girth is more important because I love the feeling of being filled. I'm not overly concerned about straight or curved, although a curved penis usually has a better time hitting my G-spot, which can be a lot of fun.
But honestly, I think it's all about how a man uses what he's been given. I have never been disappointed in sex because of the man's penis - the two times I have been disappointed it was definitely by the performance.
as everone has said, the average is about 5-7 inches, although most men fall into the 6.5 inch category. girth is between 3-6 inches, and most ment fall into the area of 4.5 inches. unerect or flaccid state is different depending on the guy. those who have a small flaccid penis are the ones who usually grow the most during an erection. men who have a long flaccid dick usually stay the same, they just get engorged and hard
This is in response to all the guys who posted, saying that it's basically "the motion of the ocean" not the "size of the wave." There is some truth to that, but when it comes down to it, they are both right!
You can't have a non-existent penis... you know like 2" or less... maybe even 3"... but you can have a 12" one and still not put a chick over the edge. You have to be able to use what ya got, and use it well!
But now, in response to the question-- the avg. American male's penis is 5.0-5.5 inches in length. Not the average male but the average AMERICAN male. Europeans are slightly bigger, and Asians are slightly smaller. Hope I was a help!
Ill admit it when fully erect i am exactly right on the dot 5 inches long. And you know what? Every single time me and my girlfriend have sex she cums. Sometimes twice with oral and one time i made her cum 3 times with intercourse (various positions). So i would say yes if its too big or too small its bad if its just right it can still be bad. But if its your preferable size and the guy knows what to do with it he can blow your mind.
Well, I have sen a few. First, when not erect. It depends on so many things. When cold, the penis and scrotum both both pull up and no conclusion can be made.
The real question is likely, when erect. I have had men become erect when I am examining them and then I have had a few sexual partners. There was a major study a few decades ago that concluded there is no difference because they all become the same size when erect. This has been disproven. Most are 6 to seven inches long when erect. Variation around this is rather slight.
From a female perspective, I like them not real big and not hard as steel bars. A large, rigid penis limits my movement and makes it difficult to get the rubbing in the right spots. Just slightly soft gives me more flexibility and more satisfaction. I often jack my partner off during foreplay. Thisa slows thing to my speed and will usually make him a little less rigid when we get to real business.
WOW! I can't believe the wealth of misinformation. Of course, it got started fifty years ago with Kinsey's famous poll that put the average at around 6.5 inches. The problem was that his statistics were severely "exaggerated" (which he readily admitted to) by relying on the accuracy of measurements taken and reported by the participants themselves.
I don't know why guys feel compelled to lie in an anonymous survey (denial?), but it's been shown that on *average*, they'll add at least an inch to the truth even in that situation. So, you can absolutely depend on every web poll to be undependable.
Fortunately, there have been a number of scientifically conducted medical studies in recent years that show the true average erect length to be between 5.1" and 5.4", with the majority of men falling within a one inch range roughly centered on the average. Also, the percentage of those with 9 inches and above isn't even a double digit. The average girth is around 4.75" to 5", and most men are pretty close to that, too.
Hard to believe? Of course it is. Men *LIE*. Even those who have 8 inches will add one more, and the ones who would need to add 2 or 3 inches just to be "respectable" generally say nothing instead. It's a rare man who will admit to having "only" five inches (or less), but as a faggot who's personally inspected more penises than I care to say, I will say that before the zipper comes down, I'm expecting about 5.5", give or take a half inch, and I'm usually right. Of course, I don't see nearly as many under that range as above it, but those guys tend to sit at home rather than having to bare the "shame" of revealing their "sexual inadequacy".
I guess I should say that altho I'm in the group slightly above the average range (OK, it's 7x4.75), I have a fetish for little dicks, and a preferrence for average or smaller. Besides the fact that they get harder, longer, they fit in my mouth much better.
"The measure of a man's penis is not a measure of the man"
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BTW - that applies to the man as both a human and sexual being.
I found a site some time ago that had a large scale (more then 3k people) internet survey, and this is roughly what they found:
Length, ave 5.5, ave variance (most of the non-5.5's fall within:) 1.5 inches (so 4-7 inches)
Girth, ave 5.1, ave variance .6
This data is from an internet poll, like i said, so some of it is going to be funkyness, though the variance numbers help combat that.
The girth is the part that usually screws me up, i see 5 inches and think huge, but thats really only like 1.7 through the middle.
I personaly am on the long side, and way over the normal variance on girth, which causes way more problems then it's worth (which isn't that much, really, from people i've talked to, averidge really is best).
Okay first of all penis size when erect fluctuates depending on how arroused you are and on my best days I'm about 7" long and 4.5 in girth and in response to andyaz post I respectfully disagree with you that people are always lying about their penis length I agree that some people will lie even on the internet where they are anonymous just to make themselves feel better but not enough to seriously contaminate and well organized survey.
Second of all I have always felt inadequate about my penis size and I think the real issue is that almost everyone has at one time or another felt inadequate about their penis size and the truth is if you have a 8 inch penis you wont have to work as hard as a guy with a 3 inch penis but it doesnt mean you dont have to work to please a woman a penis is just like life it is what you make of it.
I know it's early yet - and a small sample, but some interesting stats are emerging in the poll on preferred penis length.
Women Men
Votes 9 8
Average Size 6.9" 6.9"
Standard Deviation 1.5 1.0
The standard deviation (for those non-statisticians) is the measure of how widely values are dispersed from the average value.
It's interesting that although male and female preferred size is identical, it is in fact women who have shown the widest range of preferences! The Std Dev for females is much greater than for males! I (for one) would have expected it to be the other way around.
All the men (bar 1) voted from 5" to 7".
5 women voted in the average range, while 2 voted 8" to 9", 1 voted 7" to 8", and 1 voted 4" to 5".
Does this mean we need to revise the often-cited belief that ... "the vast majority of women don't care about size, just quality?"
Have women just been trying to make us guys feel better all this time, when they tell us size doesn't matter?
Does it mean once women try bigger they are converted to it?
Should our average "Mr Happy's" now be seeking a name-change to "Mr Sad"?
Of course, I say all this somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I would be interested in the ladies views on these early "findings".
OK, Stallion, I've never had one too large or too small. I like them in that middle range around six inches. Of more interest to me is that they not be bar rigid. That limits my motions and I cannot adjust to the best spot.
However, here's an afterthought - if very large penises (say over 7" or 8") are relatively rare, I wonder how many women commenting/voting have ever experienced a larger penis.
If they haven't experienced one, how can they know whether they would prefer it or not? It's kind of like saying "I prefer skim milk to 1%", when I've never tasted 1%!
If I am correct, it makes the poll/comments pretty meaningless, unless only women who have experienced ALL the varying lengths are the only ones to vote. Saying that she is satisfied with a certain length doesn't mean she wouldn't prefer something else, if she had tried it!
I'm one of the females that voted the 8"-9" range. Personally I do have experience in the different sizes. I've been with a 4.5, a 6, an 8 and a 9. Three of which were quite a bit above average in the girth area as well. Brand me a size-queen, but yep the 8 and 9 were more fun. Sure it hurts like crazy unless you use a lot of lube and patience, but there's something to be said for the endorphin rush that accompanies that kind of stretching.
Also, in my experience, the men with larger than average penises were actually more aware of their actions in bed and were more careful not to hurt their partner. I'm sure many men of all sizes are extremely considerate lovers, I just was not fortunate enough to meet them.
Even with my preference, I definitely agree that the penis does not make the man and that there's nothing undesireable about an average or below average penis. All penises are great if used properly by great men. Just because some of us happen to prefer a larger one doesnt mean we dont also appreciate the smaller ones.
I agree. Personally, On my best day I can go alittle 7¾" on my best days and just below 5½ girth wise on my best days. But... even I have insecurities every now and then. I have a theory for why men have these insecurities. Porn.
I mean think about it, most people first saw porno when they where young, and still not at their full sizes. I think it kinda gets set in your mind that you want something THAT bit, because from the looks of it, she seems tro be enjoying it. And yes, as we get older, we learn that a pleased woman doesn't come with the big penis, you actually have to work it. We also learn that those women aren't really moaning out of pleasure, they're moaning because their director is telling them to... but nonetheless, the thought stays in the back of our minds... we NEED to be bigger.
When a woman says "SIZE DOES NOT MATTERT" she is right. It is the person that matters. If you are hot for someone then it will float the boat no matter what size. I am five feet three inches tall. You cannot possible think I would be looking for a man twelve lol. Well, if I was in love maybe. It depends on the man himself. If he is a three and I have the hots for him I will make it work. I guess you can say he will grow on me. lol
i dated a guy who had a curved penis (down and to the left). he was so obsessed with it being "Freakish" that he couldn't function sexually. Straight works well for me because it hits my orgasm spots best, but every woman is different.
this is coming from a girl who has seen her fair share of penises-- length is attractive. it makes the girl think you've really got something, but it's really width that makes a difference for me. and if you're so lucky to have the combination of length and width that is in your favor, then go you.
size does matter.
but more important than size is that your partner is passionate and as into it as you. the biggest dick in the world won't make up for a lazy unattentive lover.
My dick happens to be 6x2. (that is 6 inches long for those who did not know...lol) If that is what is known as average then I am average. I know how to use it and use it well enough to please my woman. In fact after my first girlfriend I was with and learned how to use what I got then the women had no complaints. In fact the woman I am with now says that sex is the best part of our relationship. We just have to learn how to get along other then in the sack. Like what was mentioned in previous posts here the performance matters alot. If you are not performing very well and cum prematurly then your woman may not be a happy camper. It all depends on the woman and her preferences and what she can handle. I am in fact a male but have found out that the woman you are sleeping with can be the only one to tell you that you are to big or to small. Not some vote or poll or what everyone thinks.
I had two guys who were quite big - maybe 9 or 10" with big girths and although it was a VERY impressive sight (I could just look at it for hours) giving head was 'quite the mouthfull' and some sex positions were painfull - ouch my cervix!!!!
The best lover I ever had was thin and no more than 4", but he was incredible!!!!
Hubby is a good 5.5" and sex is painless, "whew" says the cervix, but he's a great lover and makes me cum everytime.
Just my opinion, but I think that penis size is more important to guys in the locker room than in the bedroom. By the time she gets to see the size of it she's pretty much committed!!!
I think males are genetically predisposed to want anything bigger. From the beginning of time, bigger club, bigger horse, bigger house, bigger bank account, bigger muscles. Bigger anything. It's just part of being male. As far as females are concerned it is my opinion that although they may not want or need a large penis, they a bigger penis to be more asthetically pleasing.
[QUOTE=Quote (sexykitty @ Oct. 01 2003,10:40)]The actual size doesn't make the pleasure. I think that no matter how big your penis is, if you have good method and foreplay you will both enjoy sex. There are so many ways to make your partner orgasm, don't worry too much about the size of your unit.
The best sex I have ever had was with my current husband. We just measured him and he is 6x6. I have had much bigger/smaller and it didn't feel nearly as good. It wasn't because of the size of their unit, it was just because they were lousy lovers. They didn't take the time to find out what I liked and what felt best for me they just assumed they were doing it right(and I wasn't very vocal about it either). I am a very generous person who enjoys making my partners feel good - I've NEVER had any complaints, only compliments - yet I was left feeling unfulfilled.
I also was never really into getting oral before I was always just kind of waiting to get to the sex... now I enjoy it more than.... chocolate? Foreplay is soooo important - don't skip it or rush it.
My husband and I spent a lot of time telling each other what felt good and made suggestions on what we would like to try. Experimentation is awesome... don't be scared to try new things! Everyone likes different things and you just have to find out what those things are.
Sorry to babble, but IMO men spend way too much time worrying about the size of their penis and not enough time trying to be an attentive and passionate lover.[/QUOTE]
yes just like in Austin Powers: Goldmember, "It's not the size that matters its how you use it."
And some experimentation is not awsome. Like the time when I wanted to see what would happen if I drank two liters of mustard (yum!) in one sitting so I did and then I went to masturbate because, apparently for me massive doses of mustard are an aphrodesiac, and my semen was yellow due to the mustard coloring...Hi my name is François Raoul Dubois and I have problems.
I haven't had a tape measure when I've been with guys, but I know what "the average" looks and feels like. Unbelievably, sometimes the smaller than average penis manages to tickle all the right spots, but undeniably, a big one has obvious visual advantages. While the big one tickles imagination, the small one finds the spots that long one passes without a notice.
The real problem isn't about how it feels like, but rather, how to get past the moment of disapointment, when what you find falls under the average. My 5 cents to that: Go down on her before she has time to check out your inches, and surprise her with a good tickle!
Another small tip: If you know you have a small penis, don't make jokes about loose vaginas around girls you've had sex with; It so doesn't go down well!
[QUOTE=Quote (Roywyn @ June 06 2005,20:37)]like petunya my last boyfriend was above average. (immagine outr suprise when we realized normal condoms didnt fit him) exept he was always obsessing that he didnt think he was big enough... and now, my current boyfriend is about average, and we are both more thatn happy with it. is it just me, or do guys with bigger penises worry about their sise more? becuase above average guy was mesuring ever other day, while average guy has only measured once. [/QUOTE]
I'm longer than average, very large girth. I have in fact been turned down, and not invited back. I had one gf who had a problem with intercourse but got really turn on by giving oral. So why worry? My current gf has had mostly larger. Since this is a small percent of male population how can she tell? (without trying)
[QUOTE=HHH]I think males are genetically predisposed to want anything bigger. From the beginning of time, bigger club, bigger horse, bigger house, bigger bank account, bigger muscles. Bigger anything. It's just part of being male. As far as females are concerned it is my opinion that although they may not want or need a large penis, they a bigger penis to be more asthetically pleasing.[/QUOTE]
I'm quite certain this is a cultural thing as opposed to a genetic thing. In North America, at least, we are trained to want it by the media, movies, our peers, etc. I see this even moreso in areas where US culture is exported, such as when I visit my parents' country.
Only the smart guys actually end up deconstructing it and realise that "typical masculine culture" is pointless, sick and self-defeating, so we revolt against it and such.
This is just like the debates about body image: A lot of people think women are genetically programmed to want to look thin with long legs and perky breasts. In reality, it's been exposed that this is just the media and culture that causes these beliefs, and in reality it's not an inherent desire of women.
I really think it has to do with who you are partnered with. I have been with only 2 men. The first was quite large. The man I'm with now is noticeably smaller, both in length and width.
But, every time I had sex with the first man, it hurt. I am very tight, and it always hurt pretty bad at first, which isn't a good way to start off. My boyfriend now fits perfectly. He's big enough for a tight, snug fit, but not so tight that I'm in pain.
Well, 10 inches is the largest I've had and it was great, but I've had great smaller ones, too. I would have to say it definitely depends, too, on how it's used. The smaller penis was better for anal, but the larger was better for vaginal. There's nothing like feeling penetrated!
Ive taken the time to read a number of your replies since 2002.
Interestingly, I do agree with the average size - most of my experience has been with a couple of men that were of average size - 6" or just a little longer.
I found that being in 5-6" range worked best for me - the other lengths and widths, no matter how lubricated I was - no matter how much length in time of foreplay, I was still very sore in my pelvis - it's hard to control the deep thrusts in the passionate moment that a male gets - I even placed my hands on their thighs in the rear entry method and still I would bleed after intercourse - so there was only oral after that - to which was fine until I ended back with the average
sized penis.
My girlfriend has been with a big guy (really big) and she says the sex was no good. He was too big to do anything. I'm a small guy (about 5 inches and 4 1/2 around) and I've given her the best sex she's ever had, she had never had multiple orgasms except with me. I belive size doesn't matter if you know how to use it. So if you're a small guy, just learn what your woman likes and do it.
I've always found it interesting, all the hoopla about the size of a mans penis. I've seen guys in porn who hang to their kneecaps and I've seen guys in the locker rooms who don't appear to even have a penis.(as it is so small) Of course with the male he is out there where he can be seen. It seems akin to womens breast size.
What intrigues me more is how much of the vaginal canal a woman feels the penis with. I've heard where the lower third is where most of the nerve endings are where by she can feel the penetration or streatching due to the guys girth.
One of the reasons Anal Sex became popular with women I understand was that they say they can feel all of their lover's penis as the nerve endings line the anal canal.
I've just this minute got a ruler and checked myself out.
I've got myself hard, I used a ruler and messaged out a thin strip of paper, then rapped it around to find the girth, I'm 5 inches when pumped up hard, and length wise I'm 6 inches or just slightly less than 6, I've never thought of myself as big, quite the opposite, but according to what I've heard I'm quite well formed.
According to http://www.the-penis.com/size.html I'm quite comfortable, and compared to the pictures of the 'average' men I'd say I was bigger.
but i will say that in all honesty, i don't think the size matters all that much....it's if you know how to use it.
you can have the biggest dick in the world and not have a clue as to how to use it while you can have a fairly small one and be able to work wonders with it.
it's the skill. it's not necessarily the size.
HEHE YAAAYYY CANADAAAAAA, yea :P thats what happens here ;) Nah i love them alittle bigger.. well bigger to me is like.. about 7, almost 8.. or6-8.. *Drools* i duno i just love the thought of holding a big one ;) Laughs
That's a loaded question.....no pun intended! I think every woman is different, and you'll find many different answers from many different women. Variety is the spice of life!
However, I do agree....a large penis is not going to necessarily guarantee me good sexual intercourse.....that depends on the guy. So, I must agree with the saying, "It's not what you've got, it's how you use it."
However, I have to admit that I personally prefer a longer penis, and not a wide one. I don't know why, I sometimes wonder if it has to do with the fact that I'm tall. Perhaps my vagina is longer than other women? Is that why I prefer a longer penis???
From my experience (which is a lot), I would say an average erect penis is 6 inches.
PS - I've found that Canadians tend to have long penises, like I prefer.
As one who has also seen-and had- a wide variety, I agree with Brandye "I've never had one too large or too small". Remember all you straight guys out there, lesbians manage to satisfy each other with no penis at all.
As for being satisfied yourself, there are alot of ways to make that happen. For example, in oral sex, a large penis can be fun to experience, but over a long term relationship it's a lot of work. Sore jaw and all.
If both partners are truly interested in the pleasure of the other, then everybody wins.
[QUOTE=Quote (vagabondprince @ Sep. 22 2003,21:34)]Question:
Penis size probably doesn't matter for her, but might it matter for me (or "him") in terms of stimulation and pleasure?[/QUOTE]
Unless your penis is extremely large or small, I don't think it would.
The actual size doesn't make the pleasure. I think that no matter how big your penis is, if you have good method and foreplay you will both enjoy sex. There are so many ways to make your partner orgasm, don't worry too much about the size of your unit.
The best sex I have ever had was with my current husband. We just measured him and he is 6x6. I have had much bigger/smaller and it didn't feel nearly as good. It wasn't because of the size of their unit, it was just because they were lousy lovers. They didn't take the time to find out what I liked and what felt best for me they just assumed they were doing it right(and I wasn't very vocal about it either). I am a very generous person who enjoys making my partners feel good - I've NEVER had any complaints, only compliments - yet I was left feeling unfulfilled.
I also was never really into getting oral before I was always just kind of waiting to get to the sex... now I enjoy it more than.... chocolate? Foreplay is soooo important - don't skip it or rush it.
My husband and I spent a lot of time telling each other what felt good and made suggestions on what we would like to try. Experimentation is awesome... don't be scared to try new things! Everyone likes different things and you just have to find out what those things are.
Sorry to babble, but IMO men spend way too much time worrying about the size of their penis and not enough time trying to be an attentive and passionate lover.
lol tjdude
i guess what sexykitty is saying is she pretty much loves them all!
unless you are teeny tiny or have a horse dick. lol
then i guess you are just SOL.
Jaybee370, don't feel inferior.it is what it is!I as a male am about 5.5 incheches erect and ya know what it doesn't bother me 1bit. don't let it bother you
So how do different shapes affect sex from the woman's perspective?
DaMnke3 I really love that quote. And andyaz your quote is great. If any guy is ever all sad and shit about his dick size just say that and then wink at him. (To the ladies or the gays) (Guys)
you dont say what size you are affraid? i am just 4" on a good day i know that is way below average as all i have read quotes 6"to7" the eastern male is smaller at 5"to6" and dont belive what you may have been told size dos matter when it is just 4"
I seriously think that it doesn't matter. I think its a big myth that it matters a whole lot in making a woman climax. I think its just a head game (pardon the pun) women play. I fall on the larger end of the average but I don't boast about it. It takes more than size to send a woman over the edge. Bottom line...I think everyone has their preference.
Besides...we play the same game with women in their breast sizes. I just prefer that they have two great, round, non saggy breasts. I prefer a natural breast over implants too. Okay I got side tracked!
They always say the same thing every where. Average = btw 5 to 7 inches.
I'm Mr. Avarage then. PEnis sizes are similar to boob sizes i guess. There's a huge range and it really depends on shape as well as size.
In my experience, a long and straight penis can feel great but can also cause a lady to go "ouch, my uterus!" And if a guy is 8 inches or more then he can forget anything anal. My personal preference is for something in the 5-7 inches range, with a good girth (which for me is around 4 inches). For me, girth is more important because I love the feeling of being filled. I'm not overly concerned about straight or curved, although a curved penis usually has a better time hitting my G-spot, which can be a lot of fun.
But honestly, I think it's all about how a man uses what he's been given. I have never been disappointed in sex because of the man's penis - the two times I have been disappointed it was definitely by the performance.
as everone has said, the average is about 5-7 inches, although most men fall into the 6.5 inch category. girth is between 3-6 inches, and most ment fall into the area of 4.5 inches. unerect or flaccid state is different depending on the guy. those who have a small flaccid penis are the ones who usually grow the most during an erection. men who have a long flaccid dick usually stay the same, they just get engorged and hard
This is in response to all the guys who posted, saying that it's basically "the motion of the ocean" not the "size of the wave." There is some truth to that, but when it comes down to it, they are both right!
You can't have a non-existent penis... you know like 2" or less... maybe even 3"... but you can have a 12" one and still not put a chick over the edge. You have to be able to use what ya got, and use it well!
But now, in response to the question-- the avg. American male's penis is 5.0-5.5 inches in length. Not the average male but the average AMERICAN male. Europeans are slightly bigger, and Asians are slightly smaller. Hope I was a help!
####...here I am at 17, being about 6 1/2" long, thinking I'm small...
Ill admit it when fully erect i am exactly right on the dot 5 inches long. And you know what? Every single time me and my girlfriend have sex she cums. Sometimes twice with oral and one time i made her cum 3 times with intercourse (various positions). So i would say yes if its too big or too small its bad if its just right it can still be bad. But if its your preferable size and the guy knows what to do with it he can blow your mind.
Well, I have sen a few. First, when not erect. It depends on so many things. When cold, the penis and scrotum both both pull up and no conclusion can be made.
The real question is likely, when erect. I have had men become erect when I am examining them and then I have had a few sexual partners. There was a major study a few decades ago that concluded there is no difference because they all become the same size when erect. This has been disproven. Most are 6 to seven inches long when erect. Variation around this is rather slight.
From a female perspective, I like them not real big and not hard as steel bars. A large, rigid penis limits my movement and makes it difficult to get the rubbing in the right spots. Just slightly soft gives me more flexibility and more satisfaction. I often jack my partner off during foreplay. Thisa slows thing to my speed and will usually make him a little less rigid when we get to real business.
WOW! I can't believe the wealth of misinformation. Of course, it got started fifty years ago with Kinsey's famous poll that put the average at around 6.5 inches. The problem was that his statistics were severely "exaggerated" (which he readily admitted to) by relying on the accuracy of measurements taken and reported by the participants themselves.
I don't know why guys feel compelled to lie in an anonymous survey (denial?), but it's been shown that on *average*, they'll add at least an inch to the truth even in that situation. So, you can absolutely depend on every web poll to be undependable.
Fortunately, there have been a number of scientifically conducted medical studies in recent years that show the true average erect length to be between 5.1" and 5.4", with the majority of men falling within a one inch range roughly centered on the average. Also, the percentage of those with 9 inches and above isn't even a double digit. The average girth is around 4.75" to 5", and most men are pretty close to that, too.
Hard to believe? Of course it is. Men *LIE*. Even those who have 8 inches will add one more, and the ones who would need to add 2 or 3 inches just to be "respectable" generally say nothing instead. It's a rare man who will admit to having "only" five inches (or less), but as a faggot who's personally inspected more penises than I care to say, I will say that before the zipper comes down, I'm expecting about 5.5", give or take a half inch, and I'm usually right. Of course, I don't see nearly as many under that range as above it, but those guys tend to sit at home rather than having to bare the "shame" of revealing their "sexual inadequacy".
I guess I should say that altho I'm in the group slightly above the average range (OK, it's 7x4.75), I have a fetish for little dicks, and a preferrence for average or smaller. Besides the fact that they get harder, longer, they fit in my mouth much better.
"The measure of a man's penis is not a measure of the man"
------------- andyaz --------------
BTW - that applies to the man as both a human and sexual being.
andyaz
I found a site some time ago that had a large scale (more then 3k people) internet survey, and this is roughly what they found:
Length, ave 5.5, ave variance (most of the non-5.5's fall within:) 1.5 inches (so 4-7 inches)
Girth, ave 5.1, ave variance .6
This data is from an internet poll, like i said, so some of it is going to be funkyness, though the variance numbers help combat that.
The girth is the part that usually screws me up, i see 5 inches and think huge, but thats really only like 1.7 through the middle.
I personaly am on the long side, and way over the normal variance on girth, which causes way more problems then it's worth (which isn't that much, really, from people i've talked to, averidge really is best).
--Bobnova
Okay first of all penis size when erect fluctuates depending on how arroused you are and on my best days I'm about 7" long and 4.5 in girth and in response to andyaz post I respectfully disagree with you that people are always lying about their penis length I agree that some people will lie even on the internet where they are anonymous just to make themselves feel better but not enough to seriously contaminate and well organized survey.
Second of all I have always felt inadequate about my penis size and I think the real issue is that almost everyone has at one time or another felt inadequate about their penis size and the truth is if you have a 8 inch penis you wont have to work as hard as a guy with a 3 inch penis but it doesnt mean you dont have to work to please a woman a penis is just like life it is what you make of it.
I know it's early yet - and a small sample, but some interesting stats are emerging in the poll on preferred penis length.
Women Men
Votes 9 8
Average Size 6.9" 6.9"
Standard Deviation 1.5 1.0
The standard deviation (for those non-statisticians) is the measure of how widely values are dispersed from the average value.
It's interesting that although male and female preferred size is identical, it is in fact women who have shown the widest range of preferences! The Std Dev for females is much greater than for males! I (for one) would have expected it to be the other way around.
All the men (bar 1) voted from 5" to 7".
5 women voted in the average range, while 2 voted 8" to 9", 1 voted 7" to 8", and 1 voted 4" to 5".
Does this mean we need to revise the often-cited belief that ... "the vast majority of women don't care about size, just quality?"
Have women just been trying to make us guys feel better all this time, when they tell us size doesn't matter?
Does it mean once women try bigger they are converted to it?
Should our average "Mr Happy's" now be seeking a name-change to "Mr Sad"?
Of course, I say all this somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I would be interested in the ladies views on these early "findings".
OK, Stallion, I've never had one too large or too small. I like them in that middle range around six inches. Of more interest to me is that they not be bar rigid. That limits my motions and I cannot adjust to the best spot.
Fair enough Brandye.
However, here's an afterthought - if very large penises (say over 7" or 8") are relatively rare, I wonder how many women commenting/voting have ever experienced a larger penis.
If they haven't experienced one, how can they know whether they would prefer it or not? It's kind of like saying "I prefer skim milk to 1%", when I've never tasted 1%!
If I am correct, it makes the poll/comments pretty meaningless, unless only women who have experienced ALL the varying lengths are the only ones to vote. Saying that she is satisfied with a certain length doesn't mean she wouldn't prefer something else, if she had tried it!
I'm one of the females that voted the 8"-9" range. Personally I do have experience in the different sizes. I've been with a 4.5, a 6, an 8 and a 9. Three of which were quite a bit above average in the girth area as well. Brand me a size-queen, but yep the 8 and 9 were more fun. Sure it hurts like crazy unless you use a lot of lube and patience, but there's something to be said for the endorphin rush that accompanies that kind of stretching.
Also, in my experience, the men with larger than average penises were actually more aware of their actions in bed and were more careful not to hurt their partner. I'm sure many men of all sizes are extremely considerate lovers, I just was not fortunate enough to meet them.
Even with my preference, I definitely agree that the penis does not make the man and that there's nothing undesireable about an average or below average penis. All penises are great if used properly by great men. Just because some of us happen to prefer a larger one doesnt mean we dont also appreciate the smaller ones.
I agree. Personally, On my best day I can go alittle 7¾" on my best days and just below 5½ girth wise on my best days. But... even I have insecurities every now and then. I have a theory for why men have these insecurities.
Porn.
I mean think about it, most people first saw porno when they where young, and still not at their full sizes. I think it kinda gets set in your mind that you want something THAT bit, because from the looks of it, she seems tro be enjoying it. And yes, as we get older, we learn that a pleased woman doesn't come with the big penis, you actually have to work it. We also learn that those women aren't really moaning out of pleasure, they're moaning because their director is telling them to... but nonetheless, the thought stays in the back of our minds... we NEED to be bigger.
When a woman says "SIZE DOES NOT MATTERT" she is right. It is the person that matters. If you are hot for someone then it will float the boat no matter what size. I am five feet three inches tall. You cannot possible think I would be looking for a man twelve lol. Well, if I was in love maybe. It depends on the man himself. If he is a three and I have the hots for him I will make it work. I guess you can say he will grow on me. lol
oh, one more thing-- straight or curved.
i dated a guy who had a curved penis (down and to the left). he was so obsessed with it being "Freakish" that he couldn't function sexually. Straight works well for me because it hits my orgasm spots best, but every woman is different.
this is coming from a girl who has seen her fair share of penises-- length is attractive. it makes the girl think you've really got something, but it's really width that makes a difference for me. and if you're so lucky to have the combination of length and width that is in your favor, then go you.
size does matter.
but more important than size is that your partner is passionate and as into it as you. the biggest dick in the world won't make up for a lazy unattentive lover.
My dick happens to be 6x2. (that is 6 inches long for those who did not know...lol) If that is what is known as average then I am average. I know how to use it and use it well enough to please my woman. In fact after my first girlfriend I was with and learned how to use what I got then the women had no complaints. In fact the woman I am with now says that sex is the best part of our relationship. We just have to learn how to get along other then in the sack. Like what was mentioned in previous posts here the performance matters alot. If you are not performing very well and cum prematurly then your woman may not be a happy camper. It all depends on the woman and her preferences and what she can handle. I am in fact a male but have found out that the woman you are sleeping with can be the only one to tell you that you are to big or to small. Not some vote or poll or what everyone thinks.
There's what I've experienced.......
I had two guys who were quite big - maybe 9 or 10" with big girths and although it was a VERY impressive sight (I could just look at it for hours) giving head was 'quite the mouthfull' and some sex positions were painfull - ouch my cervix!!!!
The best lover I ever had was thin and no more than 4", but he was incredible!!!!
Hubby is a good 5.5" and sex is painless, "whew" says the cervix, but he's a great lover and makes me cum everytime.
Just my opinion, but I think that penis size is more important to guys in the locker room than in the bedroom. By the time she gets to see the size of it she's pretty much committed!!!
I think males are genetically predisposed to want anything bigger. From the beginning of time, bigger club, bigger horse, bigger house, bigger bank account, bigger muscles. Bigger anything. It's just part of being male. As far as females are concerned it is my opinion that although they may not want or need a large penis, they a bigger penis to be more asthetically pleasing.
[QUOTE=Quote (sexykitty @ Oct. 01 2003,10:40)]The actual size doesn't make the pleasure. I think that no matter how big your penis is, if you have good method and foreplay you will both enjoy sex. There are so many ways to make your partner orgasm, don't worry too much about the size of your unit.
The best sex I have ever had was with my current husband. We just measured him and he is 6x6. I have had much bigger/smaller and it didn't feel nearly as good. It wasn't because of the size of their unit, it was just because they were lousy lovers. They didn't take the time to find out what I liked and what felt best for me they just assumed they were doing it right(and I wasn't very vocal about it either). I am a very generous person who enjoys making my partners feel good - I've NEVER had any complaints, only compliments - yet I was left feeling unfulfilled.
I also was never really into getting oral before I was always just kind of waiting to get to the sex... now I enjoy it more than.... chocolate? Foreplay is soooo important - don't skip it or rush it.
My husband and I spent a lot of time telling each other what felt good and made suggestions on what we would like to try. Experimentation is awesome... don't be scared to try new things!
Everyone likes different things and you just have to find out what those things are.
Sorry to babble, but IMO men spend way too much time worrying about the size of their penis and not enough time trying to be an attentive and passionate lover.[/QUOTE]
yes just like in Austin Powers: Goldmember, "It's not the size that matters its how you use it."
And some experimentation is not awsome. Like the time when I wanted to see what would happen if I drank two liters of mustard (yum!) in one sitting so I did and then I went to masturbate because, apparently for me massive doses of mustard are an aphrodesiac, and my semen was yellow due to the mustard coloring...Hi my name is François Raoul Dubois and I have problems.
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I removed it because it was in the wrong thread...now I just have to find the stuff that makes sense...ok that would be nothing
to me, penis length doesnt matter as much as girth does. girth is great.
I haven't had a tape measure when I've been with guys, but I know what "the average" looks and feels like. Unbelievably, sometimes the smaller than average penis manages to tickle all the right spots, but undeniably, a big one has obvious visual advantages. While the big one tickles imagination, the small one finds the spots that long one passes without a notice.
The real problem isn't about how it feels like, but rather, how to get past the moment of disapointment, when what you find falls under the average. My 5 cents to that: Go down on her before she has time to check out your inches, and surprise her with a good tickle!
Another small tip: If you know you have a small penis, don't make jokes about loose vaginas around girls you've had sex with; It so doesn't go down well!
[QUOTE=Quote (Roywyn @ June 06 2005,20:37)]like petunya my last boyfriend was above average. (immagine outr suprise when we realized normal condoms didnt fit him) exept he was always obsessing that he didnt think he was big enough... and now, my current boyfriend is about average, and we are both more thatn happy with it. is it just me, or do guys with bigger penises worry about their sise more? becuase above average guy was mesuring ever other day, while average guy has only measured once.
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I'm longer than average, very large girth. I have in fact been turned down, and not invited back. I had one gf who had a problem with intercourse but got really turn on by giving oral. So why worry? My current gf has had mostly larger. Since this is a small percent of male population how can she tell? (without trying)
i'm pushing about 8 inches...
[QUOTE=HHH]I think males are genetically predisposed to want anything bigger. From the beginning of time, bigger club, bigger horse, bigger house, bigger bank account, bigger muscles. Bigger anything. It's just part of being male. As far as females are concerned it is my opinion that although they may not want or need a large penis, they a bigger penis to be more asthetically pleasing.[/QUOTE]
I'm quite certain this is a cultural thing as opposed to a genetic thing. In North America, at least, we are trained to want it by the media, movies, our peers, etc. I see this even moreso in areas where US culture is exported, such as when I visit my parents' country.
Only the smart guys actually end up deconstructing it and realise that "typical masculine culture" is pointless, sick and self-defeating, so we revolt against it and such.
This is just like the debates about body image: A lot of people think women are genetically programmed to want to look thin with long legs and perky breasts. In reality, it's been exposed that this is just the media and culture that causes these beliefs, and in reality it's not an inherent desire of women.
I really think it has to do with who you are partnered with. I have been with only 2 men. The first was quite large. The man I'm with now is noticeably smaller, both in length and width.
But, every time I had sex with the first man, it hurt. I am very tight, and it always hurt pretty bad at first, which isn't a good way to start off. My boyfriend now fits perfectly. He's big enough for a tight, snug fit, but not so tight that I'm in pain.
Well, 10 inches is the largest I've had and it was great, but I've had great smaller ones, too. I would have to say it definitely depends, too, on how it's used. The smaller penis was better for anal, but the larger was better for vaginal. There's nothing like feeling penetrated!
Any errect penis is a good penis, no matter what size. You can make fun with ANYTHING!
Ive taken the time to read a number of your replies since 2002.
Interestingly, I do agree with the average size - most of my experience has been with a couple of men that were of average size - 6" or just a little longer.
I found that being in 5-6" range worked best for me - the other lengths and widths, no matter how lubricated I was - no matter how much length in time of foreplay, I was still very sore in my pelvis - it's hard to control the deep thrusts in the passionate moment that a male gets - I even placed my hands on their thighs in the rear entry method and still I would bleed after intercourse - so there was only oral after that - to which was fine until I ended back with the average
sized penis.
SC
My girlfriend has been with a big guy (really big) and she says the sex was no good. He was too big to do anything. I'm a small guy (about 5 inches and 4 1/2 around) and I've given her the best sex she's ever had, she had never had multiple orgasms except with me. I belive size doesn't matter if you know how to use it. So if you're a small guy, just learn what your woman likes and do it.
I've always found it interesting, all the hoopla about the size of a mans penis. I've seen guys in porn who hang to their kneecaps and I've seen guys in the locker rooms who don't appear to even have a penis.(as it is so small) Of course with the male he is out there where he can be seen. It seems akin to womens breast size.
What intrigues me more is how much of the vaginal canal a woman feels the penis with. I've heard where the lower third is where most of the nerve endings are where by she can feel the penetration or streatching due to the guys girth.
One of the reasons Anal Sex became popular with women I understand was that they say they can feel all of their lover's penis as the nerve endings line the anal canal.
Any women able to comment?
eDJ
I read it's that an average sized penis is 5 inches long. And about 4 ½ inches around.
Erect I don't know. Theres always tons of answers to this one!
HI everyone! I am anne and I am new here. Nice to meet all of you.
I've just this minute got a ruler and checked myself out.
I've got myself hard, I used a ruler and messaged out a thin strip of paper, then rapped it around to find the girth, I'm 5 inches when pumped up hard, and length wise I'm 6 inches or just slightly less than 6, I've never thought of myself as big, quite the opposite, but according to what I've heard I'm quite well formed.
According to http://www.the-penis.com/size.html I'm quite comfortable, and compared to the pictures of the 'average' men I'd say I was bigger.
This had made my day.
Thanks people
xXx
for me...i guess a 4 to a 8 would be good to me.
but i will say that in all honesty, i don't think the size matters all that much....it's if you know how to use it.
you can have the biggest dick in the world and not have a clue as to how to use it while you can have a fairly small one and be able to work wonders with it.
it's the skill. it's not necessarily the size.
HEHE YAAAYYY CANADAAAAAA, yea :P thats what happens here ;) Nah i love them alittle bigger.. well bigger to me is like.. about 7, almost 8.. or6-8.. *Drools* i duno i just love the thought of holding a big one ;) Laughs
Jamie
That's a loaded question.....no pun intended! I think every woman is different, and you'll find many different answers from many different women. Variety is the spice of life!
However, I do agree....a large penis is not going to necessarily guarantee me good sexual intercourse.....that depends on the guy. So, I must agree with the saying, "It's not what you've got, it's how you use it."
However, I have to admit that I personally prefer a longer penis, and not a wide one. I don't know why, I sometimes wonder if it has to do with the fact that I'm tall. Perhaps my vagina is longer than other women? Is that why I prefer a longer penis???
From my experience (which is a lot), I would say an average erect penis is 6 inches.
PS - I've found that Canadians tend to have long penises, like I prefer.

As one who has also seen-and had- a wide variety, I agree with Brandye "I've never had one too large or too small". Remember all you straight guys out there, lesbians manage to satisfy each other with no penis at all.
As for being satisfied yourself, there are alot of ways to make that happen. For example, in oral sex, a large penis can be fun to experience, but over a long term relationship it's a lot of work. Sore jaw and all.
If both partners are truly interested in the pleasure of the other, then everybody wins.
[QUOTE=Quote (vagabondprince @ Sep. 22 2003,21:34)]Question:
Penis size probably doesn't matter for her, but might it matter for me (or "him") in terms of stimulation and pleasure?[/QUOTE]
Unless your penis is extremely large or small, I don't think it would.
The actual size doesn't make the pleasure. I think that no matter how big your penis is, if you have good method and foreplay you will both enjoy sex. There are so many ways to make your partner orgasm, don't worry too much about the size of your unit.
The best sex I have ever had was with my current husband. We just measured him and he is 6x6. I have had much bigger/smaller and it didn't feel nearly as good. It wasn't because of the size of their unit, it was just because they were lousy lovers. They didn't take the time to find out what I liked and what felt best for me they just assumed they were doing it right(and I wasn't very vocal about it either). I am a very generous person who enjoys making my partners feel good - I've NEVER had any complaints, only compliments - yet I was left feeling unfulfilled.
I also was never really into getting oral before I was always just kind of waiting to get to the sex... now I enjoy it more than.... chocolate? Foreplay is soooo important - don't skip it or rush it.
My husband and I spent a lot of time telling each other what felt good and made suggestions on what we would like to try. Experimentation is awesome... don't be scared to try new things!
Everyone likes different things and you just have to find out what those things are.
Sorry to babble, but IMO men spend way too much time worrying about the size of their penis and not enough time trying to be an attentive and passionate lover.
Question:
Penis size probably doesn't matter for her, but might it matter for me (or "him") in terms of stimulation and pleasure?
Exactly, no horses and no worms, lol.
lol tjdude
i guess what sexykitty is saying is she pretty much loves them all!
unless you are teeny tiny or have a horse dick. lol
then i guess you are just SOL.
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