Incest
Incest is the participation in sexual activity with, or marriage to, a close family member. Not only is this activity generally considered taboo and immoral, it is usually a criminal offence. Marriage and sexual behaviors are generally treated with the same consequences.
The place where the cultural differentiation occurs is in the definition of ‘close family member’. Some jurisdictions consider only those related by birth, some those related by adoption or marriage, while others prohibit sexual relations between people who grew up in the same households. In Western society the normal forbidden relationship line is drawn at first cousins, while anything further away is tacitly accepted.
In terms of slang or common usage, ‘incestuous’ can also refer to relationships in tight knit social groups, inappropriate close relationships between an authority figure and a subordinate, or between people in the same profession or creative field.
Incest finds it roots in historical creation mythology, and in social practices of societies all around the world. At the same time incest’s prohibitory social nature arises not only from our religious roots, but, as we will see, a biological imperative.
Western Society
Many American states recognize two separate degrees of incest, the more serious degree covering the closest blood relationships such as father-daughter, mother-son and brother-sister, with the less-serious charge being pressed against more distantly related individuals who engage in sexual intercourse, usually down to first cousins.
Despite the strong stigma attached to incest, even the more serious charge is generally prosecuted as the least severely-punishable class of felony (in New York state for example, the maximum penalty is four years in prison), and the less serious charge is usually only a misdemeanor. Curiously, many incest laws do not expressly proscribe sexual conduct other than vaginal intercourse (such as oral sex) or, for that matter, any sexual activity between relatives of the same gender - so long as neither party is a minor. This does not mean that the social ostracization that can occur as a result of such activities is not far greater than the punishment of the state.
This lenient legal position is in stark contrast with that in Australia, where incest is punishable by a maximum of 25 years imprisonment for the more serious form of penetrating a child (even if that “child” is over 18), and 5 years for the less serious charge of sexual penetration of a (half) brother or (half) sister.
Incest at its most immoral (according to western moral standards) is most frequently engaged in by parents of both sexes with their children. This is where incest can cross the line between consensual prohibited sex, and abusive pedophilia. A study by Floyd Martinson found that 10-15% of college students have had a childhood sexual experience with a brother or sister.
One of the few widely, but by no means universally, agreed upon lines in the sand is that incest by parents is abuse and should be discouraged. Despite this sentiment some societies still consider incest an inescapable fact of life. In many societies some forms of sexual contact between close family members is socially (and sometimes even publicly) acceptable and even encouraged.
Reasons for the Taboo
In looking at the motivation behind societal proscriptions against incest, it is important to look more for the general rules and less at the particular situation. Anthropologists studying the "incest taboo" have noticed that incest occurs in most societies, whether or not there is a prohibition against that activity; so the question of why we have societal rules against it in the first place becomes more important.
To more closely examine this question we will look at the three most prominent origin theories, and their counters of the incest taboo.
Genetic Argument
This theory is based on the observance of congenital birth defects caused by inbreeding. Anthropologists reject this explanation, as inbreeding does not lead to congenital birth defects per se; it leads to an increase in the frequency of homozygotes( in layman’s terms: the passing on of bad genes, magnified because people with similar genetic codes will have similar genetic defects).
Counter to this theory’s reasoning is that homozygote’s can lump potential defects together, effectively reducing the amount of defects in the population, and thus making it beneficial for the species. For example: if children born with this type of heritable birth defect die (or are killed) before they reproduce, the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population.
Another interesting note worthy of mention is that sexual stimulation has become a passtime; ie. its not just for making kids anymore.
Social Argument
Claude Lévi-Strauss has argued that the incest taboo is in effect a prohibition against same-group relationships (endogamy), and the effect is to encourage relationships outside the group (exogamy). Exogamy promotes the linking of otherwise unrelated households or lineages, thus strengthening social solidarity.
This theory was debated intensely by anthropologists in the 1950s. It appealed to many because it used the study of incest taboos and marriage to answer more fundamental research interests of anthropologists at the time about the mapping of social interactions. One of the primary dissenting opinions regarding this particular theory is about the origins of the social interaction. Since society has many different purposes and definitions around the world, how can the incest taboo be only a result of social bonds, when the taboo exists in places where socialized, cosmopolitan types communities don’t exist?
Religious Argument
Finally, there is a lot of belief that the incest taboo finds its origins in Judeo-Christian religious text. The biblical prohibitions against incest are quite pronounced and prolific. They appear in every major mono-theistic text for the last 4000 years. Some have even attempted to use this theory to explain the incest taboo in places where western-monotheistic religions didn’t exist. By looking at the silk trade and other influences of western society upon non-western groups, some experts have argued that this tenet was specifically strong and imprinted itself on other cultures.
This theory gains some legitimacy when used in conjunction with the above theories. If there is a social and biological imperative to avoid incestuous relationships, then any institutionalized and supposedly legitimate prohibition against such acts would be easily accepted.
Historical Incest
Ancient Egypt
There seems to be good evidence from experts (Egyptologists and historians on the subject) that suggest incestuous marriages were widespread during some, if not all of Egyptian history. This claim is supported by numerous papyri that recorded families having brother/sister unions. Apparently our cultural acceptance of the incest taboo led to academic skepticism by some, who felt it unlikely that the papyri actually were asserting that such a powerful civilization as Egypt, would have allowed the common violation of this taboo. This doubt in the validity of the records of common incestuous relationships has collapsed completely in the face of the cumulative evidence of scores of papyri.
There does appear to be legitimate doubts as to how long common incest occurred for in Egyptian history. There is evidence to suggest that at least within the royal family there was a tradition of hyper-gamy for men. This is where a king or his son might marry a commoner, but his daughter could not marry beneath herself, without the act be considered degrading. As a result, the royal princess often found herself either marrying her royal brother, or living her life without a spouse. Thus we see that incest may have been more ubiquitous amongst the lower classes or for women, than for higher stationed men. Proximity and lack of choices may in some instances have been the root of these widespread inter-family relationships.
Royal Dynasties
It is common knowledge of the prevalence of incest within royal families, and to some degree this is true. Adult incest within (European specifically) royal dynasties was probably encouraged to concentrate wealth and political influence within the family. This seemed to have worked financially but there is empirical evidence to suggest that at the same time this resulted in abnormally high instances of rare genetic defects and diseases.
Although the marriage unions were often not consensual, with young adults or children forced to marry close relatives, this does not imply the sex was non-consensual. Best known for this practice, which included brother-sister marriages, are some of the dynasties of Ancient Egypt (as suggested above), ancient Hawaii, and the Pre-Columbian Mixtec.
More modern dynasties where there was frequent familial intermarriage were the mid-Habsburgs - one branch ruled over Spain and the other over Austria. The Spanish branch died out in 1700, but the last Spanish Habsburg king, Carlos II had been married to María-Luisa of Orleans, grand-daughter of King Charles I of England and niece to King Louis XIV of France. However, over the last century, Kings Philip II, Philip III, and (for his second time) Philip IV all married their Austrian cousins. The Austrian branch continued to rule until 1918, and they are still alive and prospering today.
its just sex
I can see not having sex with your parants, brother and sisters, but if its an aunt,uncle,cousin why the hell not. its just sex. just make sure you use a condom and have fun.
Me and my family are all
Me and my family are all comfortable in the nude. We can just sit around all day naked together. However at my dads house every time I see my stepmom in a thong and bra or naked I get a major hardon. I just wanna sit down and screw her sensless is that bad?
I mean for fuck sake... I
I mean for fuck sake... I would never want to date my dad. I mean don't get me wrong, he's a gentleman and all but I was a little cell out of him. Were blood were supposed to love each other like best friends, and that's it. It doesn't turn me on that I am a stupid little spirit fish from out of his body and into my mom's cervix, that's between them.
And 1) Incest is not looked down upon in some countries, so shut the eff up, okay. It's just nasty I mean I'm sure some douche-bag can go ahead and say it's okay because he got some serious problems to work on.
2) would you actually like your mommy or daddy rubbing all over your titties after you just were a little seed in your dad's pee pee that flowed to your mother's cervix, and later they found out she was pregnant weren't happy with it and popped out your mama's glory hole anyway and took care of your cry baby little ass for years...
I for one would not ever let my dad or anyone in my family touch me because that's like kissing your own asshole...
Same for a parent, not that I ever had kids or anything, but if I was a parent and I ever thought of my son or daughter in this way I would shoot myself in the head , because even looking at your kid [your own flesh and blood*] the wrong way is like eatting your own shit.
That means your husband or wife are not giving you what you need so you think your kids will have it? No that's not the way THE UNIVERSE works.
That's why people who are usually involved in incest are HILLBILLIES, or eff-ing weirdos, or just plain fucking ghetto and honestly I think the world would be better without these types of people as parents because they cause issues for their little ones for their own little lost lives "who am I!?!?"[while your jerking off your tiny little pencil dick because you have nothing better to do.]
Anyways yeah, overall what I'm trying to say is:
1) It's not looked down upon because of religion, it's looked down upon because incest is like eating your own shit. And those people will never be apart of a whole with the universe because that's not the way things are suppose to be. If they were that way there would be a lot more killing and rapping and more horror stories.
So yeah...
In my opinion incest is
In my opinion incest is distasteful and disgusting. It's just ghetto! It's fun role playing that way, you know [which has been my fantasy since my boyfriend is way older than me, not* because I like my dad in that sort of way. That would be just fucked up]... But that [your non-blood-related boyfriend] is your "other father/mother" know what I mean?
I don't know I always hear about people getting rapped by they're fathers, or uncles, some times even aunties... it's sad. The only way I can think of a daughter ever falling in love with her dad is because he brainwashed her into loving him etc. It's sick!!!! I got nothing else to say, that's just nasty. PERIOD.
moderation
With age comes moderation. When younger, I was staunchly against anything even resembling incest. Partly from religious beliefs (which may or may not have valid origins), and largely belief that it could result in degenerative effects (debatably unproven).
All I can say is, examine where your attitudes and beliefs come from. Often times they come from accepted values and beliefs rather than logical and unprejudiced thinking. Sure, don't just use the weak logic that if it feels good do it, but at the same time, don't accept things just because they've always been so.
Paedophilia is a definite wrong to me, and for strong logical reasons. But incest between consenting adults is a different matter.
There's only two issues I have with sexuality. Paedophilia is of course one. The other is, when does a person become an adult? In many non-western societies, adulthood begins much earlier. Often too comes the person's mature attitudes towards a range of things. So perhaps in those societies, adult choices a younger ages are acceptable.
But in our western societies, people mature much later and often make very immature choices well past any legal age (and not just about sex). But that's another topic.
To my mind, the only downsides to incest between consenting people are these: 1. The negative backlash socially. And 2. That it could create a hunger in one or both parties that could thwart other possible relationships down the track.
Aweful
I feel so sorry for the people who have experienced this, whether because it was a family normality or a deep desire. Some things are simply wrong, and we have to resist them no matter what, not just for the sake of morality, but because it is extremely harmful to anyone involved. Feelings can be fought and supressed, we are not their slave. We can escape from the things that will hurt us in the future. There is no good excuse to engage in such horrible acts. Find someone you can talk to if you want to find the root of the problem. Sex is not meant for family.
the only thing i've done
the only thing i've done with my cousin was make out with her. i would love to go down on her but i need tips on how to do it or how to get her to do it to me.
Incest
Personally i know a incest brother and sister. He used to be my ginger friend but he started havin some wierd fetishes about penguins n hes sister so i ran away from him after i caught him n hes sister performin anal sex to eachother :|. iv recently found out that incest is common in hes family n that they frequently hav massive orgys at family get togethers!
I keep finding myself really
I keep finding myself really attracted to my mother. I don't want to say anything because of obvious consequences but I just want to bury my face in her pussy...
u naughty shit, stop thinkin
u naughty shit, stop thinkin them forts ther not good 4 u lmao
omg i've been feeling the
omg i've been feeling the same way about my sister and 2 of my cousins!
wait, im a girl, does that make me gay?
If u like guys as well it
If u like guys as well it makes u either bi or bi-curious. I had the same problem deciding which one I was. The way to tell is can u picture yourself dating a member of the same sex? Holding hands and making out possibly getting married? If you can ur bi if not n u just wanna bury ur face in their pussy ur bi-curious. Hope thy helps.
I believe that is nasty y
I believe that is nasty y would u won't to have sex with ur brother r sister r ur parents just anyone in ur family period is jus really nasty to me
agreed
agreed
Biologicaly speaking
In a biological sense incest can be very dangerous. To a certain degree it is beneficial to the survival of a species, but on whom you couple with is a different matter. I have seen first hand some of the effects of incest in both humans and animals alike...it's not a pretty sight. If one has sex with a relative, it's is simply sex (in the biological sense, cultural is a different story all together). I measure the danger of incest with "the closer to home, the closer to danger." In my view the incest is immoral, but it's thier choice. Incest should never be practiced for reproduction, that's all I got to say about that. You can deal with your families attidute, your culture/religion's attitude towards incest on your own.
Incest
i am not going to say it exactly, but I did have oral sex with my elder sister many a times when we a bit younger. We did it more for fun, were always clean after a bath and never penetrated.But it turned out that it was fun especially when we experimented in the 69 position. Nothing came of it as I just tasted her juices and she tasted my cum. Occationally now we still do the same thing..she is now married..and she says that I still taste the same as 5 years ago...
incest
when i was 16, i had a huge crush on my first cousin. we played strip card games which ended up with both of us getting naked, but she would always hide her body from me at the end. she knew i could look at her at any point and still made no attempt to cover up. she would disagree with playing a strip game before we had started but still went willingly ahead with it. she doesn't admit she likes in that way at all, but i find it hard to believe her. she is three years younger than me. what does anyone else think??
personally, i wouldnt sleep
personally, i wouldnt sleep with my family members, they're not my type. but as far as anyone else is concerned...its their business. i bet every single one of you out there has done SOMETHING that someone else disagrees with, or even finds discusting.
yes, i am talking to all the haters who posted before me about incest being "immoral" or "gross"
think about that before you go judging other people for what they choose to do behind closed doors.
im not one to judge and i
im not one to judge and i wish i knew more about the topic cause i never knew that it was such a thing. i support gay rights and things like that. i have 2 sisters so im not really attracted to them. they annoy me :) ha. i did get hit on by my cousin once, i on accident. But i never realized how it really effects people. so... i kinda just wanted to say sorry for past judgment... im so lame ha
incest
We are programmed to survive.
So we're programmed to reproduce, and indulgent sex is the way to keeping the human race alive.
Experimentation is okay,however having incestuous sex knowing there is ALWAYS a risk of pregnancy is wrong.
Love isn't an ideal, its hormones and chemical reactions.we are the animals we deny that we are.
Incestuous love isn't love,its indulgent and abnormal considering the health risks and come on, were we designed(not saying this in a religious way) to procreate with children, animals and relatives?
if I recall , 20% of autistic children in great Britain are the fruit of incestuous couplings?? ( cousins-cousins)
fuck your cousin
I have had a relationship with my first cousin. It was telephone and internet, but we were very specific about what we wanted from each other. We had wonderful sex and it was very uninhibited. We spoke every day while she used different dildoes, etc. Anyone else been there?
sex with my first cousin
My cousin and I became very close while she was planning a family reunion. We live in different states, but in our conversations, she asked me what I thought about kissing cousins. In any event we became cyber lovers and telephone lovers also. It was great! We are both married and she wanted me to leave my wife and go with her. That wasn't possible for me. She had no children. Has anyone else run into the same situtation?
detestable
I think it's detestable to do things like this. I could never imagine my brother or father in that aspect :\. I'm not trying to judge anyone because technically everyone in the world is related in some way or another believe it or not. But incest is def not for ME.
Incest good or bad?
In my opinion no parent should take advantage of a child for some momentary bit of pleasure. The children cannot think rationally or protect themselves when faced with the demands of an adult so important to them. Brother/sister experimentation probably happens quite a bit. All these forms of incest need not, but probably do, lead to psychological difficulties later in life. Strong feelings of resentment can grow in the abused child as it matures. Accusations of incest often pop up many years later during family arguments with devastating consequences. It's just not worth the potential damage to your child's psyche or your own reputation. Don't do it.
incest
I believe that the feelings of resentment and guilt come from society. It is society that is saying this is bad and you are evil for even thinking of it. I do agree that a parent/ child relationship is wrong when the child is still a minor, but if after the age of consent, if those parties want to engage in a sexual relationship then have at it. I don't think that society or religion ( another big one) should have ANY role or say in sex and relationships. Love is love. As long as both parties are down for it, then have some fun. It is the guilt that society and religion puts on people that causes all the psyco sexual issues later on in life.
Can someone help?
When I was a teenager I had wet dreams about haveing sex with my mother. ??????????
Ah, Sigmund Freud
Sigmund Freud was a psychologist/psychoanalyst who believed that everyone had a complex over their opposite sex parent: The Oedipus Complex for men regarding their mothers, and the Electra Complex for women regarding their fathers (had something to do with penis envy, as I recall, correct me if I'm wrong).
If the complex (or, in Freud's terms, the "fixation") was not resolved, it would lead to later problems in life (usually sexual in nature).
Dreams are wonderful and
Dreams are wonderful and uninhibited. They reveal what is in the subconscious mind. Embrace your dreams!
Incest imagined
I am a virgin at 50 years old. I am not physically attractive, weighing around 98 pounds at 5’ 8” tall. Despite that, I am very sexually active. I masturbate routinely while imagining sexual situations including intercourse with my mother, visualizing her as a young woman. As a teen, I would often listen, and sometimes watch my mother and her boyfriends having sex, while hiding underneath her bed or in her closet. Another source of physical stimulation was sniffing either my mother’s or sister’s soiled underwear during masturbation. The closest I got to actual sex with another person and incest happened during a cross-country drive when my older sister needed to pee. It was night and we were many miles between towns. My sister relieved herself in a thermos in the back of our van. Not long after, I snuck back and found the thermos. In the dark, I drank its contents and afterwards humped a rolled up sleeping bag until I had a fiery orgasm! As a teen or young man, If given the opportunity, I would have loved taking my mom. She was a very pretty woman. If incest is between two consenting adults and kept private, I personally see nothing wrong with it.
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